Mandatory mask poll

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Godfollower said:
So the truth is not what those articles would have you believe. The ankle monitors were applied, not because those people had been tested or because they had tested positive, but because those people were deliberately risking infecting innocent people. They were defying orders to stay home until it was safe for them to go out in public.
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The CNN report you are quoting from is from April. It is not related to the couple in the article I posted. The point is that this woman complied with testing before travel, agreed to self-quarantine and even agreed to call the Health Dept as required if they were going to leave the house. She simply refused to sign the document due to something in it she didn’t agree with and now she is being monitored and is under house arrest. This is wrong. Until she actually had a violation, there should have been no ankle monitoring and no house arrest. People shouldn’t be compelled to sign a document they disagree with or be threatened with arrest. That is over reach.
 
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Elizabeth3 said:
She already demonstrated willingness to be in compliance with the law by getting tested before traveling. She could have just gotten in her car and driven to her mother’s house out-of-state without testing. She was self-quarantining and had not refused to do so.
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The judge thought otherwise. I do not know. What you are saying is what she said. The quarantine order was sought based on the accusation that she did not self-quarantine but kept going out in public. I do not know. The judge is the one who heard the evidence.
 
JoeFreedom said:
This is totalitarianism. This is tyranny. If you want it, go take it elsewhere.
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No, this was an elected judge who made the ruling. A local official. This is the rule of law in the United States. You cannot ask a whole country to “take it elsewhere” because you do not like the rule of law. That is the reverse of what should happen.
 
puer.dei said:
Once you tell me to stay home so that you don’t have to follow the same rules everyone else does, YOU have restricted MY rights.
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That is the thorny problem of society. How to give the most freedom to the most people with the least restriction on all. Those that cry foul the loudest seldom care about the rights of others that are on the other side of the balance.
JoeFreedom said:
Stop right now virtue signalling
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That phrase is always used like it is a bad thing. Yet Jesus taught.
You are the light of the world. A town built on a hill cannot be hidden. 15 Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a bowl. Instead they put it on its stand, and it gives light to everyone in the house. 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, that they may see your good deeds and glorify your Father in heaven.
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Quarantining healthy exposed people happened during the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. As did fining people who didn’t wear masks (or didn’t wear them properly).
 
pnewton said:
The quarantine order was sought based on the accusation that she did not self-quarantine but kept going out in public.
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I didn’t read that anywhere. What report did you see that she kept going out in public?
 
Godfollower said:
Every Christian in a society suffering from the Corona virus pandemic has a moral obligation to wear a mask when in public.
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As Catholics, we’re obligated to follow Just Laws. As such, people should carefully read their state and local mandates.
Godfollower said:
Refusal to do so is a sin.
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I’ve seen more than a few disturbing remarks on this Forum calling non mask wearers sinners and murderers. Some even going so far as to advocate withholding medical treatment for non mask wearers.

This attitude has to stop.

If a sin has been committed, it’s between that person and their Priest.
 
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Imagine North Korea with a huge military and a nuclear arsenal. You think this makes the world safer?
 
I’m not seeing it there either that she kept going out in public. It just says they told the judge she was refusing to self-quarantine. It seems to me they are using her refusal to sign as evidence that she was refusing to self-quarantine. It doesn’t appear that she was actually out and about."

“That’s exactly what the Director of the Public Health Department told the judge, that I was refusing to self-quarantine because of this [referring to her refusal to sign] and that was not the case at all,” Linscott said. “I never said that.”
 
Cruciferi said:
If a sin has been committed, it’s between that person and their Priest.
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Except…are we as Christians not representing Christ in everything we do? Are we not to love our neighbors as ourselves? Are we not to be a “light on a hill”? Would wearing a mask - especially if it’s a sacrifice - not be a great way to love our neighbor?
 
TULIPed said:
Would wearing a mask - especially if it’s a sacrifice - not be a great way to love our neighbor?
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Perhaps to You; however, not everyone is obligated to do as you wish. To be frank, you’re wading into highly subjective territory.
 
Cruciferi said:
Perhaps to You; however, not everyone is obligated to do as you wish. To be frank, you’re wading into highly subjective territory.
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Agreed - not everyone is obligated to do as I wish - thank goodness. But that wasn’t my question. Christ asks us to take the narrow road. He asks us to pick up our cross daily. In short, he asks us to sacrifice.

If wearing a mask is a sacrifice, and it’s meant to help others stay safe, how would we justify not wearing them as Christians. I’m not saying it’s impossible, or even unlikely to do so - I’d just like to see a good argument using the Catechism and scripture.
 
The CDC has supported wearing masks here: CDC calls on Americans to wear masks to prevent COVID-19 spread | CDC Online Newsroom | CDC

The American Medical Association has supported wearing masks here: Hannah Kirking, MD, on concerns on how the virus spreads | COVID-19 Update for July 13, 2020 - YouTube

The Surgeon General is supportive of wearing masks (now): Did the US Surgeon General Recommend the Public Not Wear Masks? | Snopes.com

Even the President is wearing a mask (now): Coronavirus: Donald Trump wears face mask for the first time - BBC News

Every major university hospital system supports wearing masks - here’s an example: 5 Questions: Stanford scientists on COVID-19 mask guidelines | News Center | Stanford Medicine

I get it. Masks are a sacrifice to wear. They are uncomfortable. They hide our faces. They might even infringe upon our rights.

However, they are meant to protect others. Every major public health institution in the country is supportive of wearing masks. As Christians, we are called to sacrifice and love others. That call is second only to our commitment to our God. It seems to me that masks are a (very) small way we can be good Christians.
 
TULIPed said:
I’d just like to see a good argument using the Catechism and scripture.
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You’re more than welcome to formulate one; however, I don’t think that’s necessary. I’m compliant within my jurisdiction and am following the law. I’m under no further obligation.
 
Yeah, I really don’t understand the dramatic religious and emotional arguments surrounding this issue.

Follow your Local and State Guidelines
 
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