Mary Mediatrix of All Graces

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Do you accept or reject that Mary is Mediatrix?
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As to whether your argument is valid, that’s irrelevant.

Your premises must share a common term in order for a conclusion to be potentially possible. Your syllogism doesn’t do that, man. Don’t know what else to tell ya…

As you seem to be showing, it’s really a basic, axiomatic accept/reject proposition - which is fine. But then don’t go around telling people that something is logically necessary when you can’t show it is.
 
Just to be fair, I’ll go first:
I accept that Mary is our Mediatrix!
 
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Sophistry doesn’t impress me.
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It’s not sophistry. You said it was logically necessary and you haven’t shown it.

This isn’t advanced stuff. I think I was a sophomore when Dr. H covered basic modals and boolean operators that these arguments use.
To be clear - I’m not saying this stuff is innate. But it’s a far cry from “sophistry”.
 
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If Christ is the sources of all graces, and we receive said graces through Mary-as-Mediatrix, then Mary is Mediatrix of all Graces. Which is exactly what Pope Leo XIII stated she is. Which is why there is also a Mass of Mary Mediatrix of All Graces. I really don’t care if you accept or reject my syllogism. I would care about St. Thomas Aquinas’ opinion, but he’s not around to ask.

You continue to evade answering my direct question as to your acceptance or rejection of Mary as Mediatrix.
 
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I don’t see where you’ve been uncharitable at all. It’s clear that Mary is rightfully called Mediatrix of all Graces, and you rightfully defend that, Deo gratias!
And lest we forget, the Mass of Mary Mediatrix of all Graces is coming up. May 31st!
 
Now you’re being ridiculous. I’m saying Paul had the meaning in mind when he used the Greek word for mediator.
This is from the Catholic Encyclopedia:
A mediator is one who brings estranged parties to an amicable agreement. In New Testament theology the term invariably implies that the estranged beings are God and man, and it is appropriated to Christ, the One Mediator. When special friends of God — angels, saints, holy men — plead our cause before God, they mediate “with Christ”; their mediation is only secondary and is better called intercession.
 
Oh I didn’t really think you believe that St. Paul had Internet access. 🙂

But why do saints and popes call Mary Mediatrix? And why is there a Mass of Mary Mediatrix of All Graces on May 31st?
I see no incompatibility between the Catholic Encyclopedia and the designation of Mary as Mediatrix of all Graces. Neither, apparently, did Pope Leo XIII or St. Pius X, among others.
 
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You are Catholic. Eastern Catholic Churches all have or strive to have a huge icon in the santuary of “wider than the heavens”. Of course she is limited because she is not by nature God, I was just trying to explain the vast contrast of how you are viewing her
 
If it’s good enough for popes Leo XIII, St. Pius X, and Benedict XVI, it’s certainly good enough for me.
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The Church’s teaching on stuff like sex has varied over the centuries so…
 
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If it’s good enough for popes Leo XIII, St. Pius X, and Benedict XVI, it’s certainly good enough for me.

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And you are more than welcome to that belief… however, Mediatrix of All Grace is not a teaching the requires assent. Pope Pius XI and Pope John Paul II both convened a commission to study the topic and both decided not to try and define this… i’ll stick with those two Pope’s…and if you have ever read any Blessed John Henry Newman, you find strong language against this relatively new idea of Mediatrix of All Grace… i’ll Stick with him too
 
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