Michele Bachmann's [former] Church Says the Pope Is the Antichrist

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SamH said:
What makes you say that?
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You are implying that Bachmans’ ecclesial body’s belief should be viewed as inconsequential when the words of Jeremiah Wright were certainly held against the President. I am commenting on the hypocrisy in this line of thinking.

When it’s someone “on your team” you see these factors through different eyes.

Personally, I could care less about either situation but I hate to see blatant hypocritical partisanship.
 
ringil said:
You are implying that Bachmans’ ecclesial body’s belief should be viewed as inconsequential when the words of Jeremiah Wright were certainly held against the President. I am commenting on the hypocrisy in this line of thinking.

When it’s someone “on your team” you see these factors through different eyes.

Personally, I could care less about either situation but I hate to see blatant hypocritical partisanship.
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Does Bachmann’s church condemn the very nature of the United States? I could care less if her pastor is anti-Catholic. I do care if the pastor is anti-American. I am not voting for Pope. I am voting for President.
 
ringil said:
You are implying that Bachmans’ ecclesial body’s belief should be viewed as inconsequential when the words of Jeremiah Wright were certainly held against the President. I am commenting on the hypocrisy in this line of thinking.
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Actually I implied nothing, if I did you you please show where.

I didn’t know Jeremiah Wright was a religon or a Church. I thought he was a man that Obama said had heavily influenced him and was like a family member. My mistake.
 
ringil said:
You are implying that Bachmans’ ecclesial body’s belief should be viewed as inconsequential when the words of Jeremiah Wright were certainly held against the President. I am commenting on the hypocrisy in this line of thinking.

When it’s someone “on your team” you see these factors through different eyes.

Personally, I could care less about either situation but I hate to see blatant hypocritical partisanship.
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Because ecclesial groups opinion about the Pope is somehow pertinent to the job of POTUS and equal to Wrights position of America and race?

Apples and Oranges.
 
The irony is that, in reality, she’s a lot more Catholic than a lot of Democrat Catholics all put together.
 
DanteAlighieri said:
Does anyone honestly believe that Bachmann would risk pushing Catholic voters even further down the Democrat path by persecuting us? Even if she does believe this, she’s a savvy enough politician to know how stupid that would be. On top of that, she’s staunchly pro-life, and she no doubt recognizes how vital the Catholic Church is in fighting that battle.

Peace,
Dante
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Don’t all politicians do the same. Poor Catholics never learn.
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Does Bachmann’s church condemn the very nature of the United States? I could care less if her pastor is anti-Catholic. I do care if the pastor is anti-American. I am not voting for Pope. I am voting for President.
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Well, it seems as if the WELS condemned the very nature of the Catholic Church.

Compare that to U.S. Marines veteran Wright, who only condemned (to “damn” means to “con-demn”) the crimes that he believed the government had perpetrated against the Native Americans, the Japanese Americans in WWII, the Africans brought over in chains, for treating her citizens as if they were less than human, as if the Hebrew prophets’ warning of God’s justice would go null and void when it came to certain actions of the American government.

Actually, I think the WELS statement could be a “teachable moment” for Protestants and Catholics: lots of anti-Catholic sentiment still exists in America, and Bachmann could address that issue, in a manner similar to how Obama addressed how the races in American often misunderstand each other because of different historical experiences.
 
ringil said:
You are implying that Bachmans’ ecclesial body’s belief should be viewed as inconsequential when the words of Jeremiah Wright were certainly held against the President. I am commenting on the hypocrisy in this line of thinking.

When it’s someone “on your team” you see these factors through different eyes.

Personally, I could care less about either situation but I hate to see blatant hypocritical partisanship.
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CatholicBoy1957 said:
The irony is that, in reality, she’s a lot more Catholic than a lot of Democrat Catholics all put together.
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Evangelical faith is as far from Catholicism as the East is from the West.

Does she believe in the Real Pressence?
Does she believe in the Authority of Peter and Apostolic Succession?
Does she believe in the Imaculate Conception and the Asumption?
No.

Her faith isn’t Catholic- PERIOD. It is totally alien to the True Faith- no connection whatsoever.
 
ringil said:
Evangelical faith is as far from Catholicism as the East is from the West.

Does she believe in the Real Pressence?
Does she believe in the Authority of Peter and Apostolic Succession?
Does she believe in the Imaculate Conception and the Asumption?
No.

Her faith isn’t Catholic- PERIOD. It is totally alien to the True Faith- no connection whatsoever.
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But being a Republican more fundamental to being Catholic than being Catholic is, as we all know here. :rolleyes:
 
Scott_Lafrance said:
Does Bachmann’s church condemn the very nature of the United States? I could care less if her pastor is anti-Catholic. I do care if the pastor is anti-American. I am not voting for Pope. I am voting for President.
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Exactly. I’m sure she’ll have to answer for it, but the Wright controversy had to do with his racist and anti-American views. Obama looked to him as a mentor, so it was relevant.

Does Bachmann have such ties to a strong, anti-Catholic preacher? Or, was she just a member of a Protestant church who gasp is anti-Catholic. Imagine that! Protestants being anti-Catholic and anti-papacy. Who’d a thunk it? 😛
 
ringil said:
Evangelical faith is as far from Catholicism as the East is from the West.
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That part I got.
Does she believe in the Real Pressence?
Does she believe in the Authority of Peter and Apostolic Succession?
Does she believe in the Imaculate Conception and the Asumption?
No.
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That part I got. Do people like Pelosi, Biden, or Kerry believe those things?
Her faith isn’t Catholic- PERIOD. It is totally alien to the True Faith- no connection whatsoever.
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What do Pelosi, Biden, or Kerry believe? Based on the facts, of course! Like their voting records, and public statements.
 
If Obama had to be questioned regarding Jeremiah Wright, then by all means, Bachmann should as well
 
CatholicBoy1957 said:
The irony is that, in reality, she’s a lot more Catholic than a lot of Democrat Catholics all put together.
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I really don’t like that statement. To me, it sort of implies that Catholicism is a piety contest. Also, I don’t like it when we say that someone is a better Catholic than another, or when we say that someone is a poor Catholic because when you think about it, we all have sinned in our lives and none of us are perfect. I have no problem with saying that someone is doing something that is inappropriate for a Catholic to do, but it’s a real pet peeve of mine when people question other people’s level of Catholicity
 
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