That’s where my problem was with her statement, basically she is saying, Fornication=Purity because they “love” each other
What kind of a comment was this person trying to say? And I am called judgemental by her because I quoted the Teachings of The Catholic Church, not my personal opinion.
Where is this world headed???
I’m not judging anyone. It just seems that everyone is getting all bent out of shape because certain people choose to watch certain T.V. shows. People are telling how much more pious they are, because they don’t do anything that isn’t fulfilling to God. Great that’s wonderful, you’re a saint. Praise be you, and when that person is beatified maybe I’ll pray for intercessions.
It is a discussion forum, no? Feel free to talk to all here.
I didn’t think you were hoping it would happen to you.
Historical reality, as long as it does not contain gratuitous violence, is necessary to realize the power of evil and the cost of freedom. Sometime this is depicted visually, sometimes in books or magazines. Children should be gradually educated in this reality and not shocked into thinking their life is in danger at all times.
Not sure what you mean. I was addressing the main topic.
So let’s not look at social behavior and how it is sin and/or leads to sin? And doing this is being mean and is nonsensical?
) Please I am sorry for any misunderstanding.
Sounds like a whole lot of judgement in your post. That’s ok. Your opinion is welcome.
No big deal. If and when I have time to watch T.V. it usually includes “Blues Clues” or “Sesame Street” By time my toddler and baby are ready for bed I am too. I get up early for work, so it’s tough.Amber, I made no comment one way or the other on the TV show, I was annoyed by this poster, responding to a young person (age 16) asking a question about a questionable TV show, by talking about her own co-haitation by “falling asleep in her boyfriends arms” This is what I posted about. She should not promote this life style to a teenager. TV viewing by adults is their business. They have to ask themselves is this proper, or whatever. Also if they do make sure kiddies are asleep. (like I said before never seen it because it usually conflicts with my Law and Order
I agree. Not everyone is completely manipulated. But we are to stay away from near occasions of sin. And we are to stay away from supporting any one else’s sin in other ways. If we support a show, for example, that is bad for teenagers, yet we know teenagers are watching it - should we be supporting it?
Certainly. Always love them. Jesus is love. Jesus is truth. The 2 are part of the same coin. Neither can be avoided. If anyone wants help stopping sin, I’d be honored to help.
If you think I’m judging that your opinion. I’m okay with that.
pot, kettle…
Nobody is saying they are more pious. Nobody is saying they are a saint. Nobody is singing their own praises. Some are saying that being pious and being a saint (ultimately) is achievealbe while still accepting what the world has to offer as entertainment. That’s the objection.
Nobody is saying that. We are talking about the immorality of a particular TV show. That’s it. Some are vigorously defending it. I don’t know why.
We can all have our opinions. Some have the opinion that the show is immoral and potentially leading you away from Christ. If the goal is to follow Christ, it is a reasonable discussion.
It certainly can be. Watching pornagraphy is a sin and many of the shows on today either are pornographic or very borderline.
I hear you! in the 80’s I never seen an episode of Dallas or knots landing when everyone would asked if I saw such and such or who shot J.R. the looks I got when I asked Who is J.R.?..PBS I thought was the only channel on TV (no cable in area yet) Mr. Rogers, Sesame Street and others (oh it’s been so long, can’t remember more) were my day. I fell into bed soon after my little darlings did.
I guess it depends what posts you read and the mood of the day. Discussion, dialogue, and debate has always been important to improving society. Sometimes (as we are all human), we get into arguing and acting improperly but that is a necessary risk in my book. Many of the posts on issues of the day (i.e. judicial decisions, laws etc.) do have an impact on public perception and much of this perception gets worked out in the quality of debate.If you think I’m judging that your opinion. I’m okay with that.
When someone tells others they need to pray more instead of watching T.V. - to me it’s judging their eternal soul. Maybe I read too much into it.
I guess I don’t understand how a forum is improving yourself and society. Each time I log on all I read is bickering and arguing. Anger and frustration.
How does that show a non-Catholic, what being Catholic really means?
I’m sure you do lots that don’t involve this forum. I’m sure your a wonderful husband, a wonderful father, a wonderful man. I don’t know you. I don’t know any of you.
Maybe I’m frustrated because someone is my life is always ‘miss holier than thou’ but that’s a new thread.
The only time I get to read this stuff is when work has down time. Today I have downtime.
After work I don’t get to get online.
Don’t know how to separate the quotes…Silly me.
Actually, yes they are judgemental attitudes. As I stated before, there is a lot of gray area in life… area where we as individuals have to make choices about how we spend our time, what we allow into our lives, what is ok and what isn’t. When I hear people on these forums spouting off black and white blanket statements such as “R-rated movies should never be watched” or “All primetime viewing options are bad” it reminds me so much of fundamentalist protestant America. It’s incredible.
Steph
See that’s just it right there. If one is not convicted that that’s a sinful act watching that T.V. show, then is it really sinful? If you are convicted not to watch such shows, then don’t because it would be a sin for you. But if one is not convicted then is it still a sin?
Very well put Gregory, As I told an earlier poster it is not our own “Judgemental Opinion” but we are quoting the Teaching of the Catholic Church. (when bragging about her co-habitation) The “grey areas” must addressed. To stick our heads in the sand and say not my problem, it becomes your problem as we watch society decline.
OK all good and fine to call sin “sin”. I agree. It is fine to tell someone who is cohabiting that what they are doing is a sin (lovingly PLEASE). But it is NOT ok to tell someone that watching their choice of a tv show is a sin!!! Viewing the show itself is NOT a sin!! If you are watching it and sinning in some way as a result, by all means, go to confession and stop watching it!! Desperate Housewives is no worse than CSI or Law and Order (since these are the other 2 shows mentioned). And BRAD with your historical violence— I know your type!! I know people who enjoy sci-fi and watch the show “Alias” but condemn people who watch Desperate Housewives. If your thing is history and that is what you entertain yourself with, fine. You are no better than someone who entertains themself with fictional shows!! Please don’t put yourself on a high horse by saying that watching this stuff “keeps history from repeating itself”, etc… Like you are doing some service to mankind by watching something that has to do with history! It’s what you ENJOY. You are ENTERTAINING yourself!