Moratorium on discussions about same-sex marriage yes or no?

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I know all the threads about gay life on Catholci answers are highjacked like this one. I have found this annoying but I have learned however to accept this inevitability. I still think that it is good to hear Catholics affirm the Churches convictions in this area just as in other areas. As I said before, if we don’t hear people affirm the Church’s convictions when it comes to gay life, where will we hear it? In the press or broadcast media? Not at all.
Those who believe in gay sex/marriage should not post about that here. “where will we hear it?” From the Pope, from Catholic newspapers and magazines. This forum should not be a place to be used as free advertising and promotion for legalized gay sex.

The secular press and broadcast media generally embrace the sex with anyone idea. We, as Catholics, need to read good Catholic newspapers and other publications.

Peace,
Ed
 
Those who believe in gay sex/marriage should not post about that here. “where will we hear it?” From the Pope, from Catholic newspapers and magazines. This forum should not be a place to be used as free advertising and promotion for legalized gay sex.

The secular press and broadcast media generally embrace the sex with anyone idea. We, as Catholics, need to read good Catholic newspapers and other publications.

Peace,
Ed
Well In truth I have mixed feelings. If it is a general question about the Church teachings and explanation of the teachings, fine, but what we have too often, IMHO is finding constant circular arguments being repeated over and over, which must be challenged, until it starts getting ugly. Myself I have set personal moratoriums, only allowing myself to be drawn into the discussions attempting to defend the teachings of the Church.

But is it the fault of the forum or my own? Should some discussions be restricted? or not? With the constant barage from “gay” appologist I will not even allow my own children have access to this forum. They get enough of the “gay” agenda every where else they go. I do not feel this is a safe web page for young people, when I know very well some that are claiming to be teens on this forum are adult ‘gay’ right activist.

So on what is suppose to be a Catholic forum should a moratorium on discussions about same-sex marriage be activiated? or even promoted?
 
For example, I’ve met some queer folks on this forum who are out as gay but have been celibate their entire lives because they follow the teachings of the Church.
That is one point where these so-called gay contradict themselves. They want us to believe that they are living a chaste life. But they keep on coming out proclaiming themselves as gay. What for? According to them, because they are “sexually attracted” to their same kind. Which they say, mean among others, they want to have sex with their same kind. But according to Jesus, the mere thought of wanting to have sex with another not one’s spouse is already a violation. How then could they still claim to be celibate when as they proclaim to the world that they are gay, they are doing it to let the world know that they want to have sex with their same kind? And since they persist on proclaiming to everyone that they are gay, therefore they are proclaiming to everyone that their wanting to have sex with their same kind is persistent.

I’m sorry that this is already off topic. These gay people simply urgently needs a “surgery”.
 
Speaking as a gay person, it’s quite clear that conservative Christians talk way more about gay sex than actual out-of-the-closet, comfortable gay people.
Oh, heck yes. Conservative Christians are just plain obsessed with sex, period. Honestly, I don’t understand the obsession, since it has little to do with Christ’s life. As to the question of banning discussion of gay marriage, I am new here and don’t know the history of the forums, but I wonder why ban a topic? If the arguments one way or the other are so weak that they can’t hold a discussion, perhaps they shouldn’t be held at all.
 
Oh, heck yes. Conservative Christians are just plain obsessed with sex, period. Honestly, I don’t understand the obsession, since it has little to do with Christ’s life. As to the question of banning discussion of gay marriage, I am new here and don’t know the history of the forums, but I wonder why ban a topic? If the arguments one way or the other are so weak that they can’t hold a discussion, perhaps they shouldn’t be held at all.
The reason to ban it is to exclude this forum from being used as a free advertising and promotion space for gay sex.

Peace,
Ed
 
There should NOT be a ban on discussion of this topic if you ask me. With a new president, it is possible some things may change in this country regarding gays and policies toward them. We shouldn’t cut off our chance to discuss any changes that do happen, for the better or for the worse. Suppose there is new research, sociological, or medical on this topic. Shouldn’t we get to discuss that as well? I find it helpful to have the (name removed by moderator)ut of people with same sex attraction on these issues. It is far more irritating to me to have supposed Catholics in these forums supporting the gay lifestyle than to have people who are gay and claim no religion or another religion to be offering us counterpoints.
 
Moratorium on discussions about same-sex marriage yes or no?

It appear to me, that the subject of same sex marriage is continues to posted in new threads over and over with many of the same arguments being discussed over and over. IMHO this discussion seem to be started by persons whom come to theis forum to push to what seems to me a agenda to redicule the Churches postion on the subject and try to provoke angry on CAF. Many time it seems after the aguments have been exhausted, persons will come back under different user names and start a new thread on the subject in order to once again riducle the Church, her teachings on the subject and those who follow the Churches teachings. would it not be in this case proper to have moratorium on the subject? Yes? or No? why or why not?

It is obvious most of the discussions are not presenting anything new, but are exposing the younger (teens younger) forum members to extreme falsehoods in which the “gay” appologist are using this forum to promote. IMHO.
bennie,
homosexulas will never give up trying to justify their sinful lifestyle. This is unfortunate, for them. We must continues to pray for them and show to them what God has said about this sin.
From a biblical standpoint, the rise of homosexualty is a sign that society is is in the last stages of decay. We are approaching the End Times.
We now have preachers that preach and condone this sin which God hates. See Rom.1:21-32
We are all called to repent of our sins.

jean
 
I do not believe in censorship. If someone wants to ridicule me for my belief then I am man enough to stand up to that ridicule. I do not believe censorship leads in a direction where any of us really want to go.
 
Um…the definition of sexual attraction seems self-evident to me. Some women I “admire” in the way you describe (which sounds like friendship…like people who dress well or who are articulate or whatever) but that is not attraction. Attraction means I want to kiss, hug, be close to, hold hands with…etc…with women and not at all with men. I’m not sure if it’s possible to clarify any more. I do not get butterflies in my stomach around men. I do around women. The thought of sex with a man is not something I even remotely am interested in.

Lesbians “raise children with each other” in many ways. Some use one of the women’s eggs and a surrogate birth mother. Some use a sperm donor, either a friend or anonymous donation. And some adopt. I understand that many on this forum object greatly to these practices, but they are fairly common among partnered gay folks.
annn,
We are not discussing raising children. the topic is , the sin of homosexualty.
See Rom.1;26-32
Do you believe what God has said?

jean
 
I do not believe in censorship. If someone wants to ridicule me for my belief then I am man enough to stand up to that ridicule. I do not believe censorship leads in a direction where any of us really want to go.
On a Catholic forum, censorship that serves a good purpose is appropriate.

Peace,
Ed
 
But is it censorship? What we have here is not honest debate. It amounts to letting someone come into your home and defacating on your living room floor and calling it free speech. When you try to have a logical and honest discussion it is like demons from hell come from all corners of darkness to ridicule Christ and his Church. No I do not believe that those that suffer from SSA are demons, but there seems to be a very evil spirit that seems to control the discussions always aiming at the heart of the Church and Her teachings.

The arguments are always the same over and over. Why should a forum such as this allow such control of the discussions which are the same in every thread on the subject and the discussions tend not to bear any good fruit or change of hearts and in fact they seem to turn many into rants based on anger, rage and hate… from both sides of the issue.
 
annn,
We are not discussing raising children. the topic is , the sin of homosexualty.
See Rom.1;26-32
Do you believe what God has said?

jean
jean the topic of the thread is: Should we have a moratorium on discussions about same-sex marriage? Sin of homosexuality should be a given concerning Church teaching of the subject, but that is not the topic of the thread. But once again the topic is being diverted (highjacked) and you fell for it by “gay” rights appoligists. Just like I did a few post ago.🤷
 
But is it censorship? What we have here is not honest debate. It amounts to letting someone come into your home and defacating on your living room floor and calling it free speech. When you try to have a logical and honest discussion it is like demons from hell come from all corners of darkness to ridicule Christ and his Church. No I do not believe that those that suffer from SSA are demons, but there seems to be a very evil spirit that seems to control the discussions always aiming at the heart of the Church and Her teachings.

The arguments are always the same over and over. Why should a forum such as this allow such control of the discussions which are the same in every thread on the subject and the discussions tend not to bear any good fruit or change of hearts and in fact they seem to turn many into rants based on anger, rage and hate… from both sides of the issue.
Let the self-proclaimed gays repeat over over again their arguments until they come to realize to their heart’s content of the futility and ridiculousity of their arguments.
 
It was primarily the issue of gay marriage that led me to this forum in the first place. It was only here that I started to truly understand Church teaching, and that was what started my whole “reversion” process.

That might not have happened if there wasn’t as much discussion about it. (Sure, it’s the same thing over and over…but sometimes a person has to read the same thing several times to really get it!!)
 
Just in case anyone missed it, I a reposting my first comment on this thread.
What’s to discuss? It is merely two people of the same sex, living together in mortal sin. Regardless of what man’s law calls there is no marriage and it is still just that, i.e,. two people living in mortal sin.
 
It was primarily the issue of gay marriage that led me to this forum in the first place. It was only here that I started to truly understand Church teaching, and that was what started my whole “reversion” process.

That might not have happened if there wasn’t as much discussion about it. (Sure, it’s the same thing over and over…but sometimes a person has to read the same thing several times to really get it!!)
This is exactly the reason the topic of discussion should not be banned. Sure it might seem like the same thing over and over, but we are constantly getting new members or having unregistered viewers read the site. It is much less daunting to start reading a new thread thats 5 or 6 pages long than to read an old one that is 70 pages long. If it can lead people to the truth on this topic, it is worth it.
 
Just in case anyone missed it, I a reposting my first comment on this thread.
Originally Posted by Deacon Ed B View Post
What’s to discuss? It is merely two people of the same sex, living together in mortal sin. Regardless of what man’s law calls there is no marriage and it is still just that, i.e,. two people living in mortal sin.
There may be others who are not yet living together but simply planning to. But before they finally jump into the river they have some doubts that they want resolved. Hence, let us give them a chance. In case it should happen that it is the devil himself we are dealing with, we are sure that the devil never wins against Christ. Hope for the good is always there.
 
This is exactly the reason the topic of discussion should not be banned. Sure it might seem like the same thing over and over, but we are constantly getting new members or having unregistered viewers read the site. It is much less daunting to start reading a new thread thats 5 or 6 pages long than to read an old one that is 70 pages long. If it can lead people to the truth on this topic, it is worth it.
No more excuses or exceptions. Catholics have got to realize that some people here are not telling the truth. Period. They want free advertising for gay sex and will say anything to keep it. They might even call themselves Catholics. There are people who are paid money to post messages on internet forums like this one. They pretend to be an average person. In fact, they are called astroturf - fake grass roots.

Church teaching on this topic is well known and should be provided here but that’s it.

Peace,
Ed
 
No more excuses or exceptions. Catholics have got to realize that some people here are not telling the truth. Period. They want free advertising for gay sex and will say anything to keep it. They might even call themselves Catholics. There are people who are paid money to post messages on internet forums like this one. They pretend to be an average person. In fact, they are called astroturf - fake grass roots.

Church teaching on this topic is well known and should be provided here but that’s it.

Peace,
Ed
Did what go there, but I agree there are activist, I don’t know if they get paid put the spend time going to forums and starting discussions of things such as gay marriage etc. It is true, and was one the tatics the Democratic presidiential campain was promoted on the internet. and you are right to point that out, never heard the term astroturf before, but you are right on that.

So the question by really be, should CAF allow it self to be duped in promoting a forum for the activist? Of course how well is the selection of monitors of the forums as it comes to recognizing concerted efforts of activism by those which to attempt to do harm to the Church or misrepresent the Church teachings?
 
No more excuses or exceptions. Catholics have got to realize that some people here are not telling the truth. Period. They want free advertising for gay sex and will say anything to keep it. They might even call themselves Catholics. There are people who are paid money to post messages on internet forums like this one. They pretend to be an average person. In fact, they are called astroturf - fake grass roots.

Church teaching on this topic is well known and should be provided here but that’s it.

Peace,
Ed
LOL It’s the Homosexual Agenda, right? Who is paying the money?
 
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