Muhammad (pbuh), the Last Prophet

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You accuse God of playing games to promote the Israelites. Remember this is what Moses said God told him (not an angel) from the burning bush. Or is Moses now a liar, too?
The liars are not Moses (pbuh) and God. But those who used their pen to write their own fabrication in the books.

How can you say, ‘We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us’? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. -Jeremiah 8:8

I don’t think you will say, prophet Jeremiah was a liar.
 
Some more RE: your assertion that Islam doesn’t teach its adherants to kill unbelievers/infidels:

Qur’an 5:72 “They are surely infidels who say; ‘God is the Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary.”

Qur’an 8:12 cp. 8:60 “Instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers”; “smite above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them”

Qur’an 2:191 “…kill the disbelievers wherever we find them”

Qur’an 8:55 Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve.

Qur’an 22:19-22 “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem” “for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods”

Qur’an 48:13 Those who “believe not in Allah and His Messenger, He has prepared, for those who reject Allah, a Blazing Fire!”

Qur’an 8:7 “Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: ‘Wipe the infidels (non-Muslims) out to the last.’”

Qur’an 8:39 “So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam.”

What am I missing here?
 
Since you accept Moses; How did God identify himself to Moses? Why doesn’t God mention Ishmael? If Ishmael is such an important prophet for God why isn’t Ishmael in Gods memorial name but Isaac’s is?
In my book, God showed Moses (pbuh) a light. But in your book, God showed him the ‘back parts’ (Bottom or *** in other words). I don’t know, what all your God got in front side, as per your Bible!!! Shame on you to believe so.

Are you asking about your books, or My book? In my book, Ismael (pbuh) is mentioned WITH Isaaq (pbuh). In your book, No. Becasue you wanted to promote Isrelites as choosen ones.
 
What if Jesus (pbuh) was not God and never died? That is the perspective we see him. He was beloved to God and since even bible supports that he wanted and prayed to be saved from cross, we believe God accepted his prayer. That one prayer contradicts both your claims that He was God (He wouldn’t pray to be saved if he was God) and he was martyr (He never wanted to be killed by Jews and the beloving God cannot reject the pray of his beloved messenger).

As messengers, Mohamed and Jesus (pbut) had their own mission which they were supposed to fulfill. Mohamed (pbuh) is greater because he is the one came us as messenger of God. Jesus (pbuh) was the one came Israelites. As humans they were the same. As messengers, they were greater to the respective people they came to.

Prophet Mohamed (pbuh) never shattered that teachings. As the time changed, he had theach more things as well. He was teaching Islam as the religion to live till end of days.

Lie. Islam doesn’t teach to kill anyone. Instead, it teaches if we kill one man, he will have to suffer the penalty in the afterlife as for he killed the entire humanity. There is no other religion in the face of earth, took murder that serious. Don’t evaluate Islam for the acts of some terrorists which none of Muslims or Islam doesn’t agree. That is nonsense.

Another Lie. Quote that hadees where Mohamed (pbuh) made them ‘like dogs’. I can explain it.

Childish. You know nothing about Islam.

None of the athiests or any of those people made fun of Jesus (pbuh) the messenger, but of the GODLY JESUS which is more concerned in Christianity. If you never reacted, thats is your problem. You don’t love your GOD as much as we love our God and our messenger. We don’t allow anyone to make fun of them and that includes Jesus (pbuh) the messenger as well.
If Jesus is held in the same esteem, where are the Muslim riots when Jesus is mocked and humiliated in our day?
 
**Here are both of your answers. **
Sacrifice was not condition asked in Ezekiel to get forgiven of sins.

18:20 "The person who sins will die The son will not bear the punishment for the father’s iniquity, nor will the father bear the punishment for the son’s iniquity; the righteousness of the righteous will be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked will be upon himself.

**21 "But if the wicked man turns from all his sins which he has committed and observes all My statutes and practices justice and righteousness, he shall surely live; he shall not die. **

22 "All his transgressions which he has committed will not be remembered against him; because of his righteousness which he has practiced, he will live.

And God asking you question that contradicts Hebrew 5:1-10.

23 “Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked,” declares the Lord GOD, "rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?

“But only men of understanding will pay heed” -Quran 39:9
 
Okay, Khalfan…I’m waiting for your reply to my posts: #997 and #1000…

holds breath
 
Apparently, Muhammad used to mistake one of his companions, Dihya al-Qalbi, as the angel Jibril. Some people might say that Muhammad was the prophet of Dihya. Some people might say that the author of the Quran was Dihya because of Muhammad’s mistaken belief that Dihya was Jibril. But I won’t be so uncharitable.

Here is the evidence.

alinaam.org.za/library/rasul/ddminarets.htm
Bukhari as narrated by Aaisha [Radhiallaahu anha], ‘After the battle of Ahzaab, Prophet [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] disarmed himself and took a bath. In the meanwhile, Jibreel [Alayhis salaam] came riding a pony and talked to the Prophet [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] near the door step of Baab Jibreel. Jibreel [Alayhis salaam] said to the Prophet [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam], ‘You have put away your arms but we (the angels) are still in battle uniforms. So you should come with us to attack Jewish tribe Banu Qurayza.’ Aaisha [Radhiallaahu anha] added, ‘I was looking at Jibreel [Alayhis salaam] through the cracks in the door of my hut. Jibreel [Alayhis salaam] was covered with dust.’

Prophet [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] asked people on his way to Banu Qurayza, ‘Did you see anybody pass this way a little while ago?’ They said, ‘We saw Dehya Qalbi pass this way riding a white and black pony. He had silk sheet spread under him.’ Prophet [Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam] said, ‘That was Jibreel [Alayhis salaam] who was sent to Banu Qurayza to destroy their forts and induce fear in their hearts.’

Sahih Bukhari

Volume 6, Book 61, Number 503:
Narrated Abu 'Uthman: I was informed that Gabriel came to the Prophet while Um Salama was with him. Gabriel started talking (to the Prophet). Then the Prophet asked Um Salama, “Who is this?” She replied, “He is Dihya (al-Kalbi).” When Gabriel had left, Um Salama said, “By Allah, I did not take him for anybody other than him (i.e. Dihya) till I heard the sermon of the Prophet wherein he informed about the news of Gabriel.” The subnarrator asked Abu 'Uthman: From whom have you heard that? Abu 'Uthman said: From Usama bin Zaid.

Volume 4, Book 56, Number 827:
Narrated Abu Uthman: I got the news that Gabriel came to the Prophet while Um Salama was present. Gabriel started talking (to the Prophet and then left. The Prophet said to Um Salama, “(Do you know) who it was?” (or a similar question). She said, “It was Dihya (a handsome person amongst the companions of the Prophet ).” Later on Um Salama said, “By Allah! I thought he was none but Dihya, till I heard the Prophet talking about Gabriel in his sermon.” (The Sub-narrator asked Abu 'Uthman, “From where have you heard this narration?” He replied, “From Usama bin Zaid.”)

Sahih Muslim Book 031, Number 6006:
Salman reported: In case it lies in your power don’t be one to enter the bazar first and the last to get out of that because there is a bustle and the standard of Satan is set there. He said: I was informed that Gabriel (Allah be pleased with him) came to Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) and there was with him Umin Salama and he began to talk with him. He then stood up, whereupon Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to Umm Salama: (Do you know) who was he and what did he say? She said: He was Dihya (Kalbi). He reported Umm Salama having said: By Allah, I did not deem him but only he (Dihya) until I heard the address of Allah’s Apostle (may peace be upon him) informing him about us. He (the narrator) said: I said to Uthman: From whom did you hear it? He said: From Usima b. Zaid.

So you see… the people of the time kept seeing Dihya but Muhammad only saw Jibril. Allah is most wise.
Wow… You know bette than Allah and the messenger (pbuh). I don’t understand the logic of believing, angel Gabriel (pbuh) cannot take form of Dihya al Kalbi (ra).
 
:confused: How can Jesus (PBUH) be God if he is supposed to be the son of God?
A Psalm of David.Psalm 110:1****Matthew 26:64
Mark 16:19
Acts 6:8,7:55-56
** Hebrews 12:2** According to the Psalm, Jesus (The one who God says,Sit at My right hand) is Lord; as God the Father is the Lord.
The only Problem is, Jesus (pbuh) never said ‘I am God’ in his entire life. And he never wanted to die on the cross.
 
God is most wise.

And he asks us to love- no matter how trying it may be.

A loving Father.

The Trinity is the perfect example of a family.

We as humans are imperfect, and do not understand, so therefore we have some humans seeking out human understandings of the Fully Man Fully Divine -

In the end, Jesus asks us to love them all 🙂

They do love Mary. This is a start.
Believe in some thing you never understand. Specially making one God, who never said, he is God.
 
Well you’re in a bind then. Because according to our beliefs he did.

You can argue your interpretation of our texts if you want, but you’re then judging our faith by your beliefs, not ours, because as noted, according to our beliefs, he did.

You’ve simply created a construct of argument that you can’t now win.
That makes only according to your beliefs, not according to his words. That is the point I am trying to make you understand. Not to win, but to save you from hell for blasphemy.
 
OH MY GOD!!! the angel was ONLY a man :dancing: :banghead: :bigyikes: :rotfl:
Are you laghing on your own stupidity?

It was not the only form that angel came to messenger (pbuh). He recognised Gabriel (pbuh). You laghing on an illogic concept that, Angels cannot take form of others. :cool:
 
Believe in some thing you never understand. Specially making one God, who never said, he is God.
Meaning that Jesus never claimed to be God. But he did, Khalfan, as I and others have already quoted/answered in this thread…why do you ignore these answer and keep positing your version of the “facts”?
 
Jesus Christ was human. He could be hungry, He could bleed, and He could die.
Who dead on the cross, God or man?
I’ll answer only if you accept it was Jesus on the cross, and that He died there. Otherwise, why convince someone who only thinks an imposter was killed and Jesus went off to India?
Doesn’t matter who was on the cross. That is another question. Now the question is about an event before crucifiction. Why he prayed to be saved, if he came to die for us? Answer this, then we will go to cross, who was there.
The effect of sin has been defeated, not the ability to sin. It is you who are doubting God.
The effect of sin is to die. And every soul that sin, has to die. Not Jesus (pbuh) for us. Haven’t you ever read Ezekiel 18:20-23?
Had to…? No. God has to do nothing. He did so for our benefit, not His.
He can do it in which state he is. He don’t have to change and he never change.
Must it be unique to be true? Nothing about Mohamed is true, and can you answer why you worship Mohamed from the previous post?
I don’t worship Mohamed (pbuh). I worship the God that he and Jesus (pbuh) worshiped.
 
Now the question is about an event before crucifiction. Why he prayed to be saved, if he came to die for us? Answer this, then we will go to cross, who was there…
Jesus said, “IF this cup can pass from me…but NOT MY WILL, but THINE be done…”

That doesn’t sound like Jesus whining that he refuses to die…merely that he acknowledges his flesh, his human portion wishes it could be otherwise…But he submits himself to the task set before him. (And I’m NOT explaining the trinity or God/Man here…merely answering your original question.)
 
Look, im probably going to get shot down in flames for saying this, but this thought did cross my mind.
I know Muhammed is no prophet and the quran is just fables he made up, but the religion Islam isnt all that bad.
At least they pray to God. And I think as long as they pray to God, that is a good thing. They show a lot of compassion to God, no matter where they are, what they are doing, when it comes to prayer time, they will drop everything in pray. I really admire them for that.
But that is as far as it goes that makes it a good religion. Anyone that reduces Jesus to a prophet makes me sick…
Im just one of those people that likes to look for good in everything, and thats what i found good about Islam.
God bless everyone
Compassion to God indeed…but will they show compassion to christians and jews if they obtained political power in any western country ??? Incidentally i am disappointed with some of the barbed comments made about muslims and islam on this blog. I have only ever wanted one thing to happen in an islamic state , and that is for the average citizen to have the ability to purchase and read the bible.The Holy spirit will do the rest…🙂 🙂 🙂
 
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