National Sunday Law

[SDA2RC]

Please explain.

My comment was in reference to you mentioning the Catholic church putting the Bible together.

You said:

They would of if they didn’t know the meaning of the prophecies (particularly those that hadn’t been fulfilled yet).

My point is that we are back to your interpretation of what has or has not been fulfulled yet… and whether they understood it. IF your basing your idea’s on whether or not they would have understood the Adventist idea of prophetic interpretations etc… then there are some serious, serious problems. Which is why Adventist prophetic interpretations is so widely rejected… just lik that of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

 

[SDA2RC]

Do you know what “sin” is?

1 John 3:4 (KJV): “Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.”

Romans 6:1-2 (NLT): “Well then, should we keep on sinning so that God can show us more and more of his wonderful grace? Of course not! Since we have died to sin, how can we continue to live in it?”

Does that need to be interpreted?

Haha… yes! What law? There were 613 commands in “the” Law or Mitzvoh. Is this what your talking about? What about the verse of scripture that tells us that there was sin BEFORE the law? How can it only be transgression of the law if there was sin before the LAW?

(NASB) Romans 5:

12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

 

[Patrick_Murebil]

newshadow;3950782:

How can citing a Scripture be an interpretation? It says what it says. You’ve just been conditioned to ignore any that aren’t in line with the Catechism and whatever else you study.

Show me a posting that I haven’t responded to and I’ll address it as best I can.

And that is what we have been saying to you, now, and Protestant101, regarding John 6, where JESUS says that we must eat HIS flesh and drink HIS blood in order to have life eternal…It says what it says, but that seems to be interpreted by you all over and over and over. You seem to be conditioned to ignore any that aren’t in line with EGWs word and declaration.

And do you also mean to tell me that from just reading the scriptures you were able to discern that the Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon and the Pope is the anti-christ? How do you, from scripture alone, come to that conclusion? Did that come to you divinely inspired or were you taught that through SDA bible studies, revelation seminars, or reading EGW books?

 

[heisenburg]

Anyone, regardless of affiliation. that thinks that they can understand scripture without guidance is either arrogant and doomed, or a fool.

When we depend on our own understanding for ‘theology’ we WILL be led astray…

NOWHERE in scripture does it say that we are promised a proper understanding by reading scripture… only the CHURCH is (whether you think it is the 'church of all believers, or Catholic church doesn’t matter) only the CHURCH is promised to be free from error…

NOT a person…

Scripture says that our hearts will deceive us…

Why do we think it won’t when it comes t scripture…

Scripture even says it is difficult to understand…

In Christ

 

[BibleTruth]

Haha… yes! What law? There were 613 commands in “the” Law or Mitzvoh. Is this what your talking about? What about the verse of scripture that tells us that there was sin BEFORE the law? How can it only be transgression of the law if there was sin before the LAW?

(NASB) Romans 5:

12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned— 13 for until the Law sin was in the world, but sin is not imputed when there is no law. 14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over those who had not sinned in the likeness of the offense of Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come.

Questions: What law?
Answer: The Law Jesus began quoting when he was asked by the rich man how he could have eternal life:

Luke 18:18-21 (NLT):

"Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?”

“Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.”

Jesus began quoting the Ten Commandments; specifically the last six commandments that deal with loving your neighbor. You can continue to try and avoid it, but the truth is the truth. Obviously, whatever other books you follow aren’t teaching you this…they’re apparently teaching you something contrary to God’s holy word.

Please don’t think I’m trying to say that we’re saved by following the law**…we’re saved by grace through faith alone.** With that said, however, it doesn’t excuse us from having to keep the law (which should be done out of our love for God), which is the point you’re missing.

 

[SDA2RC]

Again “BibleTruth” your quoting from the LAw… but you ignore the rest of the 613 commands. The Jewish Law… which includes the 10 Commandments, called the Mitzvoh, was 613 commands…

You are trying to limit it to only 10 of the 613. This is the interpretation piece that we are speaking of! You say 10, I saw 613 which include the 10.

But even this sin existed before the law (I already quoted you that verse), which was not introduced until 2500 years after creation, or 430 years after Abraham.

The fact is that the entire law was replaced with the New Covenant.

So we again come back to… you say scripture says one thing… I say it means something else. Scripture its self says neither… it is our interpretations of scripture that are different. So tell me where do we go to find out which of us is right?

This is where the doctrine of the Church comes in! The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth. If you and I disagree we go to the Church, the one Christ and the apostles founded, not the Adventist one that didnt exist for 1800 years after the death of Christ! The Church tells us which of us is right. Scripture is not of private interpretation, which is exactly what you suggest we do!

It is tool for the Church, not an end in its self!

Questions: What law?
Answer: The Law Jesus began quoting when he was asked by the rich man how he could have eternal life:

Luke 18:18-21 (NLT):

"Once a religious leader asked Jesus this question: “Good Teacher, what should I do to inherit eternal life?”

“Why do you call me good?” Jesus asked him. “Only God is truly good. But to answer your question, you know the commandments: ‘You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not testify falsely. Honor your father and mother.’” The man replied, “I’ve obeyed all these commandments since I was young.”

Jesus began quoting the Ten Commandments; specifically the last six commandments that deal with loving your neighbor. You can continue to try and avoid it, but the truth is the truth. Obviously, whatever other books you follow aren’t teaching you this…they’re apparently teaching you something contrary to God’s holy word.

Please don’t think I’m trying to say that we’re saved by following the law**…we’re saved by grace through faith alone.** With that said, however, it doesn’t excuse us from having to keep the law (which should be done out of our love for God), which is the point you’re missing.

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

**So because you present a 19th century intrepretation of sacred scripture, and St. Paul warns us about these new teachings that are to come, are you presenting a teaching other than the one Paul and the Apostles handed down to the Catholic church these 2000 years unchanged?

Galatians 1:6
5 6 I am amazed that you are so quickly forsaking the one who called you by (the) grace (of Christ) for a different gospel
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(not that there is another). But there are some who are disturbing you and wish to pervert the gospel of Christ.
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But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach (to you) a gospel other than the one that we preached to you, let that one be accursed! 7
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As we have said before, and now I say again, if anyone preaches to you a gospel other than the one that you received, let that one be accursed!
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Am I now currying favor with human beings or God? Or am I seeking to please people? If I were still trying to please people, I would not be a slave of Christ. 8
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9 Now I want you to know, brothers, that the gospel preached by me is not of human origin.
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For I did not receive it from a human being, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ. 10
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11 For you heard of my former way of life in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God beyond measure and tried to destroy it,

peace**

 

[BibleTruth]

Anyone, regardless of affiliation. that thinks that they can understand scripture without guidance is either arrogant and doomed, or a fool.

When we depend on our own understanding for ‘theology’ we WILL be led astray…

NOWHERE in scripture does it say that we are promised a proper understanding by reading scripture… only the CHURCH is (whether you think it is the 'church of all believers, or Catholic church doesn’t matter) only the CHURCH is promised to be free from error…

NOT a person…

Scripture says that our hearts will deceive us…

Why do we think it won’t when it comes t scripture…

Scripture even says it is difficult to understand…

In Christ

Understanding Scripture comes from a ready heart, knowing God through prayer to HIM alone, reading HIS word and being taught by those who do the same. These things allow Jesus to abide within us, producing the fruits of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22) in our lives.

Proverbs 3:5 (KJV): “Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.”

Job 32:7-9 (KJV): “I said, Days should speak, and multitude of years should teach wisdom. But there is a spirit in man: and the inspiration of the Almighty giveth them understanding. Great men are not always wise: neither do the aged understand judgment.”

Psalm 119:130: “The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.”

Proverbs 2:6: “For the LORD giveth wisdom: out of his mouth cometh knowledge and understanding.”

2 Timothy 2:7: “Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.” Notice Paul’s instruction to only consider his words, but understanding comes from God alone.

Paul also wrote: in 1 Thessalonians 5:21: “Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.”

How do we do that?

Acts 17:11: “These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”

Knowing God does not come through the teachings of paganism.

 

[BibleTruth]

As we have said before, and now I say again, if anyone preaches to you a gospel other than the one that you received, let that one be accursed!

peace

Please show me in Scripture where it says we’re to worship Mary or that she stayed a virgin her entire life, then we can talk about perverting the gospel.

 

[BibleTruth]

Again “BibleTruth” your quoting from the LAw… but you ignore the rest of the 613 commands. The Jewish Law… which includes the 10 Commandments, called the Mitzvoh, was 613 commands…

You are trying to limit it to only 10 of the 613. This is the interpretation piece that we are speaking of! You say 10, I saw 613 which include the 10.

But even this sin existed before the law (I already quoted you that verse), which was not introduced until 2500 years after creation, or 430 years after Abraham.

The fact is that the entire law was replaced with the New Covenant.

So we again come back to… you say scripture says one thing… I say it means something else. Scripture its self says neither… it is our interpretations of scripture that are different. So tell me where do we go to find out which of us is right?

This is where the doctrine of the Church comes in! The Church is the pillar and foundation of truth. If you and I disagree we go to the Church, the one Christ and the apostles founded, not the Adventist one that didnt exist for 1800 years after the death of Christ! The Church tells us which of us is right. Scripture is not of private interpretation, which is exactly what you suggest we do!

It is tool for the Church, not an end in its self!

I believe you are wrong in your assertions.

The 613 Mosaic Laws were the very laws that Paul was doing his best to tell people they no longer had to follow! Those were laws that “looked forward” to Christ and were a “shadow of things to come”.

Hebrews 10:1-4: “The old system under the law of Moses was only a shadow, a dim preview of the good things to come, not the good things themselves. The sacrifices under that system were repeated again and again, year after year, but they were never able to provide perfect cleansing for those who came to worship. If they could have provided perfect cleansing, the sacrifices would have stopped, for the worshipers would have been purified once for all time, and their feelings of guilt would have disappeared. But instead, those sacrifices actually reminded them of their sins year after year. For it is not possible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.”

Are you even remotely starting to get this?

Hebrews 8:10-11: “But this is the new covenant (Christ) I will make with the people of Israel on that day, says the Lord: I will put my laws in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

I know it’s not easy to accept and you may genuinely be wanting to serve the true and living God. But there’s a system at work and it’s taking God’s worship away from him. He wants you back…

Revelations 18:4: “Then I heard another voice calling from heaven, “Come away from her a woman in prophecy is a church], my people. Do not take part in her sins, or you will be punished with her. For her sins are piled as high as heaven, and God remembers her evil deeds.”

 

[SDA2RC]

Acts 17:11: “These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.”

Knowing God does not come through the teachings of paganism.

I agree that the teachings of Paganism do not lead to God. This is one of the reasons that I am Catholic and no longer Seventh-Day Adventist. I do not worship a day… I worship God!

I only wish I had time to go through each of the texts you quoted and show how you are pulling them so far out of context. LOL

For now I will deal with Acts 17:11. Acts 17:11 was not written as the answer for how to “prove” all things. It was written for an entirely different purpose, at a different time.

Further those in Berea, according to the passage, received the word with all readiness of mind! What word and from who? They received the word of the Church, through Paul and Silas, not the word of scripture. They used scripture (The Old Testament or parts of it) to see if what Paul was saying about the Messiah, namely that he had to suffer and die (vss 1-5), rather than be a conquering king as the majority of Jews expected. He was teaching them something new… they received this new teaching from a Church leader, not from scripture. They already had scriptures, they didn’t have this new teaching from the mouth of the Church, which is why they had to “accept” it.

Likewise, the Apostles rejected circumcision… not because the OT said reject circumcision, in fact just the opposite… it said it would last forever. (Remember, the OT was the only scripture to this point) But because the early Church didn’t believe that all doctrine had to come from Scripture, and therefore the word of the Church leaders (the Apostles in Acts 15) was good enough for the Church! Likewise, the word of the Apostles Successors is just as good today!

The Bible never teaches Sola Scripture.

 

[BibleTruth]

BibleTruth;3950790:

And that is what we have been saying to you, now, and Protestant101, regarding John 6, where JESUS says that we must eat HIS flesh and drink HIS blood in order to have life eternal…It says what it says, but that seems to be interpreted by you all over and over and over. You seem to be conditioned to ignore any that aren’t in line with EGWs word and declaration.

And do you also mean to tell me that from just reading the scriptures you were able to discern that the Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon and the Pope is the anti-christ? How do you, from scripture alone, come to that conclusion? Did that come to you divinely inspired or were you taught that through SDA bible studies, revelation seminars, or reading EGW books?

My brother, the next time Jesus comes within our sight, we’ll all know and there won’t be any question.

Matthew 24:26-27: “So if someone tells you, ‘Look, the Messiah is out in the desert,’ don’t bother to go and look. Or, ‘Look, he is hiding here,’ don’t believe it! For as the lightning flashes in the east and shines to the west, so it will be when the Son of Man comes."

When you take Communion, you’re not eating Jesus’ physical flesh…that is part of a system of lies that’s been handed down through generations and implanted into your theology. How can a created being, at his command, summon the Creator of the universe? You should be asking yourself those types of questions, friend. Jesus is in heaven, waiting for his time to come again.

Hebrews 8:1-2: “Here is the main point: We have a High Priest who sat down in the place of honor beside the throne of the majestic God in heaven. There he ministers in the heavenly Tabernacle, the true place of worship that was built by the Lord and not by human hands.”

In fact, when Jesus comes again, it won’t be to touch the ground…those who follow him will be caught up in the sky. He warned us that when people start doing that, we’d know the end is near. If you have any doubts that the end is near, you should even more cause for concern, because those days are upon us. Just check out this guy: Jose Luis de Jesus Miranda and all of the other signs from Matthew 24 that we’re experiencing.

1 Thessalonians 4:16-18: “For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, the Christians who have died will rise from their graves I just wanted to bring your attention to another false teaching you’ve been taught]. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Then we will be with the Lord forever. So encourage each other with these words.”

 

[SDA2RC]

The 613 Mosaic Laws were the very laws that Paul was doing his best to tell people they no longer had to follow! Those were laws that “looked forward” to Christ and were a “shadow of things to come”.

EXACTLY!! And the Sabbath and the rest of the Ten Commandments ARE INCLUDED IN THE 613! The Jews had no concept of two seperate laws like Adventism tries to create. They had one law… and that one law included all 613 of God’s commands INCLUDING the 10 Commandments.

Hebrews 10:1-4: “The old system under the law of Moses was only a shadow, a dim preview of the good things to come, not the good things themselves. The sacrifices under that system were repeated again and again, year after year, but they were never able to provide perfect cleansing for those who came to worship. If they could have provided perfect cleansing, the sacrifices would have stopped, for the worshipers would have been purified once for all time, and their feelings of guilt would have disappeared. But instead, those sacrifices actually reminded them of their sins year after year. For it is not possible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.”

Are you even remotely starting to get this?.

ARe you? The Law of Moses is included the Ten Commandments. It included ALL of the commands of God. There was not two laws to the Jews, only one!

Scripture shows that the “law of God” and the “law of Moses” are the EXACT SAME LAW. The law of God included several thiongs that both Catholics and Adventists claim have been done away with:

Nehemiah 8 refers to the “book of the law,” and calls it the book of the law of Moses (v1)1And all the people gathered themselves together as one man into the street that was before the water gate; and they spake unto Ezra the scribe to bring the book of the law of Moses, which the LORD had commanded to Israel.

and the book of the law of God (v8,18). 8So they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.

18Also day by day, from the first day unto the last day, he read in the book of the law of God. And they kept the feast seven days; and on the eighth day was a solemn assembly, according unto the manner.
God commanded it by Moses (v14), so both terms refer to the same law.14And they found written in the law which the LORD had commanded by Moses, that the children of Israel should dwell in booths in the feast of the seventh month:
Luke 2:21-24,39 - The law of Moses (v22) is called the law of the Lord (v23,24,39).
22And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord;
23(As it is written in the law of the LORD, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord
24And to offer a sacrifice according to that which is said in the law of the Lord, A pair of turtledoves, or two young pigeons.
39And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth.
This law included a purification rite and animal sacrifices. These were clearly done away (cf. Lev. 12:2-8). Hence, the law of the Lord is the same as the Law of Moses, and it contains things that were done away, this is because the Law of God/Moses was ONE law and contained all 613 of the Commands that God gave to the Jews!

There is absolutely no Biblical support of the idea that there were two seperate laws.

In 2 Chron. 31:2-4 the law of God included animal sacrifices, new moons, and feast days, which we know were done away.

2And Hezekiah appointed the courses of the priests and the Levites after their courses, every man according to his service, the priests and Levites for burnt offerings and for peace offerings, to minister, and to give thanks, and to praise in the gates of the tents of the LORD.
3He appointed also the king’s portion of his substance for the burnt offerings, to wit, for the morning and evening burnt offerings, and the burnt offerings for the sabbaths, and for the new moons, and for the set feasts, as it is written in the law of the LORD.
4Moreover he commanded the people that dwelt in Jerusalem to give the portion of the priests and the Levites, that they might be encouraged in the law of the LORD.
There is no distinction between the law of God and the law of Moses. It was both God’s law because He originated it, and Moses’ law because he revealed it (Neh. 10:29). This whole distinction is a man-made rule having no Divine source!

You quoted! Hebrews 8:10-11: “But this is the new covenant (Christ) I will make with the people of Israel on that day, says the Lord: I will put my laws in their minds, and I will write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.”

Exactly… there is a NEW Covenant… because the OLD Covenant was abolished. What was the Old Covenant?

(Exo 34:28 NASB) So he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did not eat bread or drink water. And he wrote on the tablets the words of the covenant, the Ten Commandments.
Notice this verse states that the words of the covenant were the Ten Commandments; it does not mention the Jews acceptance or agreement to accept the law as being the covenant.
(Deu 9:11 NASB) "And it came about at the end of forty days and nights that the LORD gave me the two tablets of stone, the tablets of the covenant. This verse re-affirms that the two tablets of stone were the tablets of the covenant.
(1 Ki 8:21 NASB) “And there I have set a place for the ark, in which is the covenant of the LORD, which He made with our fathers when He brought them from the land of Egypt.”
Notice this says the covenant is INSIDE the ark, we know the Ten Commandments were in the ark. Do we really believe that the “agreement” between all the people and God, which would be immaterial, was somehow physically placed in the ark?
(2 Chr 6:11 NASB) “And there I have set the ark, in which is the covenant of the LORD, which He made with the sons of Israel.”
(Heb 9:4 NASB) having a golden altar of incense and the ark of the covenant covered on all sides with gold, in which was a golden jar holding the manna, and Aaron’s rod which budded, and the tables of the covenant.

The Bible plainly states that the covenant IS the Ten Commandments! And as you rightly noted in Hebrews… it has been done away with!

 

[heisenburg]

Bible…

To you in Christ…

I am in total Agreement… Gods words lead us ALL to truth, if we listen. But does that truth mean anything less if I need to be instructed what the truth actually is?

It is still his words… But even scripture for both the Old and the New makes it very clear that Teachers are of utmost importance lest we are lead astray by our own human wills…

Also, you are absolutely right… a heart must be in the right place to properly hear God… but that is a far cry from saying that your heart will guide you to truth., scripture says that the heart can be the set of deceit…

You also mention ‘search the scriptures daily’ but without guidance, it is in vain… we MAY discern what is correct, but more than likely we will not.

I reiterate…

Scripture does not say that the individual is promised perfect understanding… IN fact, it says the opposite… that it is hard to understand and that we need teachers to guide us…

Why is it you wish to believe the very opposite of what scripture says in this regard…

Are you saying that you can perfectly understand ALL of scripture without any help from anyone else?

And if you are capable of this…

Why not the Pope who purpose in life is to study and teach about Christ?

Knowing God does not come through the teachings of paganism.

This comment saddens me… it shows nothing short of hatred for fellow Christians and mocks the path that led them to Christ…

In Christ

 

[BibleTruth]

I agree that the teachings of Paganism do not lead to God. This is one of the reasons that I am Catholic and no longer Seventh-Day Adventist. I do not worship a day… I worship God!

I will continue to pray for you.

I don’t worship with anyone who worships a day. I know a community of believers who keep a day holy…as God commanded. There is a huge difference, but one you simply refuse to see.

What you don’t realize is Catholicism is BATHED in paganism! Just do some research for yourself and you’ll see.

Why do you bow down to idols? Why do you believe Mary remained a virgin her entire life? Just please, PLEASE, answer these two very simple questions.

 

[heisenburg]

Why do you bow down to idols? Why do you believe Mary remained a virgin her entire life? Just please, PLEASE, answer these two very simple questions.

I will answer for SDA2RC on this one…

If you check out the library section of CA, each of your questions are answered…

You may not agree with the answers, but the they are the answers and you will see how it is NOT paganism…

And incase you do not know where it is… Here you go ther is a list of categories to the left of the page

In Christ

 

[SDA2RC]

I will continue to pray for you.

I don’t worship with anyone who worships a day. I know a community of believers who keep a day holy…as God commanded. There is a huge difference, but one you simply refuse to see.

What you don’t realize is Catholicism is BATHED in paganism! Just do some research for yourself and you’ll see.

Why do you bow down to idols? Why do you believe Mary remained a virgin her entire life? Just please, PLEASE, answer these two very simple questions.

Ok…

Question 1: Why do I bow down to Idols.
Answer: I dont…

Question 2: Why do you believe Mary remained a virgin her entire life?
Answer: Because the Word of God tells me so!

I answered your questions very simply… Now answer my question to you -

Please show me from scripture… how Sabbath keeping Astronauts can keep the Sabbath in Space from Sundown to Sundown, when there is no Sundown.

There you go!

 

[BibleTruth]

Bible…

To you in Christ…

I am in total Agreement… Gods words lead us ALL to truth, if we listen. But does that truth mean anything less if I need to be instructed what the truth actually is?

It is still his words… But even scripture for both the Old and the New makes it very clear that Teachers are of utmost importance lest we are lead astray by our own human wills…

Also, you are absolutely right… a heart must be in the right place to properly hear God… but that is a far cry from saying that your heart will guide you to truth., scripture says that the heart can be the set of deceit…

You also mention ‘search the scriptures daily’ but without guidance, it is in vain… we MAY discern what is correct, but more than likely we will not.

I reiterate…

Scripture does not say that the individual is promised perfect understanding… IN fact, it says the opposite… that it is hard to understand and that we need teachers to guide us…

Why is it you wish to believe the very opposite of what scripture says in this regard…

Are you saying that you can perfectly understand ALL of scripture without any help from anyone else?

And if you are capable of this…

Why not the Pope who purpose in life is to study and teach about Christ?

This comment saddens me… it shows nothing short of hatred for fellow Christians and mocks the path that led them to Christ…

In Christ

I appreciate your sincerity.

I’m not sure, but you may have missed where I said that knowing God included being taught by people who did the other things I mentioned. But I refuse to be taught by anyone who is telling me anything that is contrary to what’s in the Bible.

God would not tell us in one age that we’re not to bow down to graven images and count it as acceptable in another. In fact, the rock that destroyed the statue in Nebuchadnezzar’s dream was a stone, not made from human hands. That should mean something to you, especially since pagan Rome was the last kingdom in that statue and the papacy was the feet made of iron and clay.

This is not a matter of interpretation…it was explained by Gabriel to Daniel in Daniel 8. No, it didn’t say “Rome” or “papacy”, but discernment is a spiritual gift we’re to actually use. What other kingdom followed Greece and fits the description so thoroughly?

I know I’m coming off strong and perhaps harsh but I’m being sincere and I love you all. I simply believe what the Bible tells me and as believers in Christ and the grace, love and mercy of God, we should adhere to what he tells us in his word. Time is short.

Revelation 22:7: “Look, I am coming soon! Blessed are those who obey the words of prophecy written in this book.”

 

[SDA2RC]

I will continue to pray for you.

I don’t worship with anyone who worships a day.

Likewise, I don’t practice a pagan religion or worship idols.

 

[BibleTruth]

Likewise, I don’t practice a pagan religion or worship idols.

Are you sure you’re Catholic?

Do you believe Mary was a virgin her entire life, even though the Bible records Jesus as having both brothers and sisters?

Please show me in the Bible where it says she was a virgin her entire life.