News from Diocese of Saginaw, MI

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frommi said:
For what its worth…there appears to be strong buzz that the new bishop of Saginaw will be named Tuesday.
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Did the strong buzz provide any names? As if i can’t wait a day (if the buzz is correct).😉
 
spanky said:
Did the strong buzz provide any names? As if i can’t wait a day (if the buzz is correct).😉
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Not really…personally I would like to see Saginaw get Bishop Paprocki out of Chicago…there is a lot about him that would make it a nice fit…plus he was part of the Eucharistic Congress a couple of years ago (and stuff like that is sometimes intrepreted as a ‘try out’ of sorts).

It seems unlikely that if it is someone who is not already a bishop that the move could be made in such a short amount of time…

But as we’ve discussed in this thread already…the holy spirit works in mysterious ways.
 
frommi said:
personally I would like to see Saginaw get Bishop Paprocki out of Chicago
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frommi, if you can accept a bishop from Chicago or elsewhere coming to Saginaw, why the resistance towards seminarians from Colombia or elsewhere coming to Saginaw? :confused:

The beloved Bishop Ken was not from the Diocese of Saginaw, either.
 
piejesu said:
Additional News…

It was officially confirmed at this Sunday’s masses that the Sisters of Mercy are indeed coming to the Cathedral Parish Community, to participate in many aspects of the work of this local church. I for one am very glad to see this project going forward.
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I’d like to hear more about this (and less about which bishop was better). The orthodoxy and effectiveness of a bishop is certainly specific enough to warrant its own thread.

Who said they were coming, and when will they be there? I think it would be great to have these sisters in Saginaw. I’ve always enjoyed seeing them around at Diocesian events, and all the ones I’ve met have been extremely friendly.
 
I’d like to hear more about this (and less about which bishop was better). The orthodoxy and effectiveness of a bishop is certainly specific enough to warrant its own thread.
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It was announced by the Rector at all three Sunday masses. The total number of sisters was not confirmed, but it was stated that two sisters would be working directly in the parish, and that one them might be coming from a current assignment at the Vatican Secretary of State Office.

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Lepanto said:
frommi, if you can accept a bishop from Chicago or elsewhere coming to Saginaw, why the resistance towards seminarians from Colombia or elsewhere coming to Saginaw? :confused:

The beloved Bishop Ken was not from the Diocese of Saginaw, either.
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Let’s clarify something here…

My point was that the 5th ordinary of Saginaw did not have an appreciably better record of cultivating local vocations than the 4th ordinary of Saginaw…not that somehow these men were not worthy of being priests or should not be accepted…somehow that has gotten completely twisted around in the course of this thread.
 
And now it is time for speculation on who the next bishop will be. First, we must establish the possibilities before getting on with the specifics.

The new bishop will be either…
  1. A bishop from someplace else, like Bishop Carlson who came from Sioux Falls, or Bishop Reh who was in Charleston, SC.
  2. An auxillary from someplace like Chicago or Detroit (or another larger diocese with auxillaries). Bishop Woznicki was an auxillary in Detroit before coming to Saginaw, and once upon a time Bishop Carlson was an auxillary in St. Paul-Minneapolis.
3, A priest, either a seminary rector, or the pastor of a large parish. Bishop Murphy was a priest in Detroit and Bishop Untener was a seminary rector prior to coming to Saginaw. Bishop Reh was a priest in New York before becoming bishop of Charleston.

#1 made sense when Carlson came here. It helped to have someone with experience running a diocese at a time when our bishop had died. The question is, should we have the same thing happen again? A bishop of a smaller diocese moves here?

As for #2, Chicago makes more sense right now than Detroit, because they have 6 active auxillaries, while Detroit currently only has 2. But in theory, an auxillary could also come from Milwaukee or St. Louis (how funny would that be) or any other large diocese, likely in the Midwest.

#3 is a very interesting thought. If it were to happen, I have this feeling that it wouldn’t be someone in this diocese. It would be someone likely from Detroit, and it would have to be a big parish. Even though Our Lady of Good Counsel in Plymouth is a big parish (2 associate priests and 3 deacons), I think Father Riccardo is a longshot, but I sure do like listening to him on the radio and I figure he is going to be a bishop someday.

But the thought is, is this the right time for Saginaw to have a new bishop who has never been a bishop before? The key thoughts are what are Saginaw’s needs, and who is the best fit for those needs? And you’d better believe that Bishop Carlson is going to have his (name removed by moderator)ut on who is picked.

With all this said, let the fun begin.
 
I think that it’s very unlikely that Saginaw would be appointed someone who’s not already a bishop. With the transition Saginaw is making (with the sudden influx of seminarians, the new school system, the possibility of closing/merging parishes, etc-not to mention the economic devastation in the City), I do not think the wisest thing to do is appoint someone who has to handle all of this and learn to be a bishop at the same time.
 
johnhard said:
I am happy that it worked out.

I pray that with these changes the church communities value and support each Shepherd.

may go bless all of use.​

john
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Back to the subject at hand. The rector of the Cathedral went to great lengths at Monday’s daily mass to explain that within an archdiocese there is kept a short list of names of possible candidates for promotion to bishop. The names are drawn from nominations gathered from the member dioceses. The list is updated regularly. Of course all that information was offered up with the standard caveats. I agree with Karl_M. It would not make sense to throw an inexperienced bishop into the current situation here in the diocese of Saginaw.
 
I don’t have any inside information or anything, just a gut feeling…

After Archbishop-elect Carlson is installed, we will need an administrator for our diocese. I’m not sure if the new Archbishop in Detroit wants something like this added to his new list of responsibilities. Plus, that could just get the awful rumors going by the “no one wants Saginaw” crowd that we’re just going to be contracted back into Detroit.

If a priest from our diocese is chosen to be administrator, as Father Sutton was last time, my gut feeling is that it will be either Father Bessert, O’Connor, or Wagner. I mention Wagner only because of his high position in the diocese, but I’m leaning more towards one of the other two.
 
If the rumor mill is true and a new bishop is to be named shortly, there should not be a need for an administrator.
 
gjpayne said:
I don’t have any inside information or anything, just a gut feeling…

After Archbishop-elect Carlson is installed, we will need an administrator for our diocese. I’m not sure if the new Archbishop in Detroit wants something like this added to his new list of responsibilities. Plus, that could just get the awful rumors going by the “no one wants Saginaw” crowd that we’re just going to be contracted back into Detroit.

If a priest from our diocese is chosen to be administrator, as Father Sutton was last time, my gut feeling is that it will be either Father Bessert, O’Connor, or Wagner. I mention Wagner only because of his high position in the diocese, but I’m leaning more towards one of the other two.
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I wouldn’t hold my breath for a new bishop right away. I know the rumor mill is churning, but when’s the last time the Vatican did anything quickly? (now that I said that, watch it happen tomorrow)

From the three priests mentioned, I don’t think it would be Fr. Wagner. He’s the Vicar for Priests for the Diocese, which should really be a full time job. He’s juggling St. Andrew’s and Holy Family, which should be two full time jobs. Fr. Jim Bessert is the Rector at the Cathedral and head of the Liturgy Office-which is no small task, particularly with the implementation of the GIRM and the new upcoming Missal (remember that thing about doing stuff quickly?).

I know almost nothing about Fr. O’Connor, so I can’t comment there.

We’ll see… the waiting game continues.
 
If the rumor mill is true and a new bishop is to be named shortly, there should not be a need for an administrator.
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On Monday the rector of the cathedral made quite and elaborate presentation at the noon mass concerning the election of bishops. He said that there generally is a short list of names kept at the archdiocese level of candidates from the various sub dioceses, and that the list is updated regularly. Of course the Holy Father is not constrained by any means to work from such a list.

Also today he (the rector) said the mention of of Archbishop Vigneron as an interim administrator today in a news article is not accurate.
 
We didn’t have to wait very long. Are there thoughts on this appointment?
 
Aha…

It seemed curious yesterday at daily Mass when the rector prayed for “the” new bishop, rather than “a” new bishop.
 
Deo Gratias for the Diocese of Saginaw!!!

What is the Curricula Vitae on the new Bishop?
 
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