Nike takes sides, tapping Colin Kaepernick for new 'Just Do It' ad

[LeafByNiggle]

How do you explain those who win large sums of money via the lottery are within a few years right back where they started?

How does the existence of those cases need “explaining?” How do they challenge the fact that some hard working morally upright people nevertheless live lives of poverty? God grants blessings of riches unequally according to His unsearchable plan. It is a heresy circulated by some Protestant sects that prosperity is a sure sign of God’s approval of a person, and poverty is a sign of God’s disapproval of that person.

 

[ucfengr]

https://morningconsult.com/form/nike-kaepernick-report/?mod=djemCMOToday

Get woke, go broke?

 

[Inisfallen]

Around here there a number of Hmong.

The Hmong tend to be poor at noticeably higher rates than other Asian-Americans, or than Americans as a whole.

U.S. Hmong population living in poverty, 2015 | Pew Research Center

www.pewresearch.org

 

[stevegravy]

Another suggestion for NIKE

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[Ridgerunner]

No surprise to this. They haven’t been here very long, come from a very primitive place, and most can’t speak English. However, they seize the opportunities available to them and are very industrious.

Many other Asians who have come here could speak English and/or had some familiarity with western or even specifically American ways. Many are from urban environments and are much better educated than Hmong.

Criticizing them for their economic condition is not really fair.

 

[Inisfallen]

Criticizing them for their economic condition is not really fair.

I wasn’t criticizing the Hmong at all.

The subject of how different ethnic and linguistic groups adapt to the United States (or Canada, or Europe, wherever) is fascinating.

It’s also, sadly, subjected to manipulation of data by various groups with less than pure intent. And no, I’m not saying that you have anything to do with anything like that.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Hmong are interesting people. Among other things, some of them assert that they are “white”, saying they are from China originally. It’s true that the Turkic Uighurs are in western China, and that might be the origin of the belief. I don’t think that’s likely, but one never knows which traditional beliefs are worth crediting and which are not. Might be some remote relationship to the Uighurs for at least some of them…

 

[Theo520]

He is not protesting the anthem. He is protesting police brutality against blacks. He has been very clear about that. Conservatives refuse to accept that. If you want to argue against him protesting police brutality feel free to do so but you can’t just make his protest about something it’s not about.

ROFL, it he wanted to be clear about it, he would protest in a different way. The Anthem has nada to do with the police and their performance.

If he wanted to be clear about it, he would protest in front of the San Francisco Mayor and city council. They are the only people that can redirect the police and their tactics in his home area.

The meaning of what he did is crystal clear to people who object, he doesn’t get to redefine the meaning of the Anthem to suite his needs, because he was ignorant of what it stands for.

 

[tuscany]

Yes, the message would make sense if Mr. Kaepernick had announced that on his own time, he would be protesting in front of a police station in every state by kneeling while someone reads the names of those who were killed. He would have plenty of publicity and be on the news at least 50 times (or 57 as the case may be). Makes WAY more sense to me.

 

[dvdjs]

Around here there a number of Hmong

I really enjoy these stories.
They are such a delightful contrast to the stories on the American folk who can’t seem to get by, feel cheated, and are susceptible to to politicians who claim “the system is rigged”.

 

[Inisfallen]

The meaning of what he did is crystal clear to people who object, he doesn’t get to redefine the meaning of the Anthem to suite his needs, because he was ignorant of what it stands for.

But nothing in his “taking a knee” protest signals either that he wants to redefine the meaning of our national anthem, or that he is ignorant of what it stands for.

He’s drawing attention to a particular issue. You may or may not share his perspective on that issue, but I can’t see how he’s doing what you’re saying he’s doing.

 

[Theo520]

But nothing in his “taking a knee” protest signals either that he wants to redefine the meaning of.our national anthem, or that he is ignorant of what it stands for.

He’s drawing attention to a particular issue. You may or may not share his perspective on that issue, but I can’t see how he’s doing what you’re saying he’s doing.

I’ll repeat my analogy, he put a booger in his mom’s sandwich because he’s mad at his brother. The act definitely got him lots of attention, but did zilch to address the issue, all the talk was about how rude he was to mum.

 

[Theo520]

Nike vs. In-N-Out: The silent majority has spoken

Not all forays into politics are equal. Two companies in the news in the past few days highlight this lesson. This is the story of In-N-Out versus Nike. And the Silent Majority has spoken.

www.reviewjournal.com

 

[Metis1]

The issue of racial discrimination is not just a local matter but also a national one. One doesn’t have to look just at the big cities in order to understand this.

Therefore, K’s protest certainly has drawn national attention to a national issue, plus he has the right of protest as long as he doesn’t actually hurt others. Compared to the “Boston Tea Party”, which we tend to honor as Americans, his protest is far less harmful.

 

[Theo520]

The issue of racial discrimination is not just a local matter but also a national one. One doesn’t have to look just at the big cities in order to understand this.

Therefore, K’s protest certainly has drawn national attention to a national issue, plus he has the right of protest as long as he doesn’t actually hurt others. Compared to the “Boston Tea Party”, which we tend to honor as Americans, his protest is far less harmful.

sounds like the protest purpose was sorta about cops, and then just a racial ‘cry out’.
A baby’s cry can be about a whole bunch of things as well

stop defending such incompetence.

 

[Metis1]

sounds like the protest purpose was sorta about cops, and then just a racial ‘cry out’.
A baby’s cry can be about a whole bunch of things as well

stop defending such incompetence.

Well, when you judge such “incompetence” as being a " baby’s cry", how is that not racist in and of itself? If it was your children that was under such threats, would you being posting words like this? I think not.

 

[Inisfallen]

sounds like the protest purpose was sorta about cops, and then just a racial ‘cry out’.

I think Kaepernick had a point. And a point white people, as well as non-white people, should think about.

But maybe that’s just me.

 

[Theo520]

I think Kaepernick had a point. And a point white people, as as as non-white people, should think about.

But maybe that’s just me.

BLM actually had a message with their protests. CK just kinda said “hey, look at me!” then when later interviewed was pretty weak in explaining his focus, he meandered from police abuse to a generic social justice rant on people being oppressed. Don’t recall him uttering any specific asks for change on this supposed ‘oppression’ though.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Kmcicco2000:

He is not protesting the anthem. He is protesting police brutality against blacks. He has been very clear about that. Conservatives refuse to accept that. If you want to argue against him protesting police brutality feel free to do so but you can’t just make his protest about something it’s not about.

ROFL, it he wanted to be clear about it, he would protest in a different way. The Anthem has nada to do with the police and their performance.

If he wanted to be clear about it, he would protest in front of the San Francisco Mayor and city council. They are the only people that can redirect the police and their tactics in his home area.

As I said before, protesting the way he did got a lot more attention paid to the issue than anything else he could have done. Certainly a lot more than commenting at a SF city council meeting.

 

[Theo520]

As I said before, protesting the way he did got a lot more attention paid to the issue than anything else he could have done.

How does it get more attention paid to the issue, when he can’t articulate what the issue is?

As I said, BLM did a far better job at bringing focus on specific issues and starting an actual dialogue. With CK the dialogue was all about him and his actions, not actual issues.

Here is one of his incoherent rants

“People are dying in vain because this country isn’t holding their end of the bargain up, as far as giving freedom and justice, liberty to everybody. That’s something that’s not happening. I’ve seen videos, I’ve seen circumstances where men and women that have been in the military have come back and been treated unjustly by the country they fought have for, and have been murdered by the country they fought for, on our land. That’s not right."