Nra calls for armed police officer in every school

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So let 3/4 of the states ratify an amendment, which will contain two provisions:

(1) that all guns and ammunition be confiscated;
(2) that all abortions be banned.

Balanced and can be done without Congress.
Article V of the Constitution prescribes how an amendment can become a part of the Constitution. While there are two ways, only one has ever been used. All 27 Amendments have been ratified after two-thirds of the House and Senate approve of the proposal and send it to the states for a vote. Then, three-fourths of the states must affirm the proposed Amendment.

The other method of passing an amendment requires a Constitutional Convention to be called by two-thirds of the legislatures of the States. That Convention can propose as many amendments as it deems necessary. Those amendments must be approved by three-fourths of the states.

Most people associate a new country with another Constitutional Convention.
 
Guess what? If you removed guns then bombs would be the next big issue. I am sure bombs can kill more people in an instant then a lone gun man.
Bombs, chemical weapons, laser guns, etc., are arms under the modern interpretation of the 2nd Amendment, aren’t they?
 
Guess what? If you removed guns then bombs would be the next big issue. I am sure bombs can kill more people in an instant then a lone gun man.
I doubt bombs could replace guns in mass attacks. How many bomb shops do you know? The ingredients of do-it-yourself bombs are already regulated and monitored.
 
If you banned cars and knifes many people would be saved because there would not be car crashes and knife attacks
I will honestly ask you again for the last time: does the number of people killed at a goal matters or not? With a knife, you can’t kill many people within seconds for instance. With a gun, you can.

Does that matter to you or not.

Comparing car accidents with gun crimes is very extreme.
 
I will honestly ask you again for the last time: does the number of people killed at a goal matters or not? With a knife, you can’t kill many people within seconds for instance. With a gun, you can.

Does that matter to you or not.

Comparing car accidents with gun crimes is very extreme.
Why? If more car accident happen then mass shootings.
 
I will honestly ask you again for the last time: does the number of people killed at a goal matters or not? With a knife, you can’t kill many people within seconds for instance. With a gun, you can.

Does that matter to you or not.

Comparing car accidents with gun crimes is very extreme.
So saving lives isn’t the goal, its saving the “right” lives?
 
2009 guns killed 11493

cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm

2.5 million annually are saved by guns. If you divide between 365 - days - that means average of 6849 people are saved by guns per day

rense.com/general76/univ.htm
I meant for your assertion that abortion “only kills”. Abortion is far more complicated than that. I’m pretty certain you will find many people who claim that they were “saved” by abortion as well. That doesn’t make it true.

My point? Like guns - statistics are very useful when used properly.
 
You want to guns to be banned? How would nearly 300 million guns be rounded up? Even if you got rid of all guns how would that stop illegal guns from entering the US?

If you banned cars and knifes many people would be saved because there would not be car crashes and knife attacks
We are not the only country on the planet that has found the need to regulate guns. No need to reinvent the wheel.

Comparing cars and knives to guns is apples and oranges. Why does no one agitate for the right to carry knives to school?
 
I was just thanking Mr. LaPierre for advocating some truly practical solutions, like putting police officers in every school. So far Mr. LaPierre is beating our President when it comes to offering practical solutions to this crisis.

As far as affording the police officers in every school, the answer is simple: eliminate the Department of Homeland Security and give their funds to Mr. LaPierre’s program.
Not practical at all. It is a polarizing soundbite, not a logical, practical idea. But that is the nature of politics, which is what this terrible deed is evolving into.

And let’s see…if we eliminate Homeland Security and spend the money on armed police at all schools and other public places, we will reduce the likelihood of people being killed locally; but we then open ourselves to devastation by terrorists, which could be local, regional or national. Take your pick.
 
Why? If more car accident happen then mass shootings.
So because car accidents happen, people should be free to have any kind of a gun or what? I don’t get the comparison.

If you want us to discuss how to prevent car accidents, then we can do so.
 
Since now seems to be a discussion about gun control, I have a question.

I served in the Marine Corps, have been a hunter, and own guns. So I am not in the anti gun camp. However, I can not wrap my head around the idea that there is any valid reason for an individual to own an assault weapon.

Outside of your constitutional right to own one. What useful purpose does owning an assault rifle serve? The only thing I can think of is self defense if being attacked by someone else with an assault weapon.
A brick could be an assault weapon. Or a baseball bat. Or many other things.

The definition of an “assault weapon” changes depending on who you talk to.

During the Clinton Administration, the semi-automatic version of fully automatic weapons like the AK-47 and M-16 were not permitted to have various harmless features because the features made the rifles have a military* appearance*, and the weapons were restricted to magazines that held no more than ten rounds. Clinton thought that this was “gun control.”

But as a former Marine, you would know that anyone with experience can easily change out multiple 10 round magazines in no time. Even the fact that the civilian weapons are restricted to being semi-automatic is really pointless, as any person with military experience knows that one hardly ever selects automatic fire when accuracy is needed. Automatic fire is only ever selected when one is laying down suppressive fire.

England has a gun ban, but criminals have guns, and today the formerly unarmed British police are heavily armed. When guns were not banned in England, the police carried nightsticks, not firearms.

They banned alcohol during the Prohibition era. Look at how that turned out. All it did was drive up the price of alcohol and create Al Capone.

And then you have the fact that the primary of purpose of the Second Amendment is not self-defense from home invasion or street thugs. The primary purpose of the Second Amendment is self-defense from the Government. The purpose of the Second Amendment is to make the Government think twice about engaging in Tyranny. The Founders wrote extensively on the right to keep and bear arms. Unlike the imaginary “right to an abortion” the right to self-defense is a basic human right. It is not even dependent upon a Constitution. It is an absolute, unalienable right.
 
Teachers at the front door to greet the kids as they are dropped off…external doors locked during school hours…buzz-in systems…911…you know, the things that are taken for granted in the West.

In most developing countries, kids walk to school or take regular buses - often unaccompanied, they sit in classrooms (often 50 or more to a room) open to the great outdoors (or in some cases, the great outdoors is the classroom) and the teachers first become aware they’re at school at attendance time. It’s much easier for them to be attacked by someone bent on causing harm.
Is that really what schools are like in the US? It’s not just in developing countries that kids walk to school or have lessons actually IN the outdoors. There’s no security fences or buzz-in systems or single entrances or locked doors in Australian schools. Most school fences are about 3 feet high and have regular openings anyway, there would be no need to even jump over a low fence, just walk in. Maybe that’s why I can’t fathom this idea of an armed guard in every school. How can a guard be everywhere? What if the deranged person takes the guard out first? What do you do then? Two guards in every school? Isn’t it also teaching kids that the only time they’re safe is when they’re locked in and protected by a gun?
 
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