meltzerboy
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You sound like a conservative now.
I recall Reagan’s solution to unemployment on a talk show. He said, and I kid you not, if every company would hire just one worker, we could solve the unemployment problem.
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I recall Reagan’s solution to unemployment on a talk show. He said, and I kid you not, if every company would hire just one worker, we could solve the unemployment problem.
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Well yes, when you abort 50 million new investors it’s going to result in the pyramid falling down.
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(To Ms. Dunham - hey wasn’t that his mother’s name?)
“You y-you’re all … all over the map!” … well known American Politician.
Trouble is … some voters did this four years ago. And they found out that … they were not … for all the promises … being courted, loved and cared for as much as … on his side
… and given the results of the four year “morning after” …
- I need a minute to more delicately phrase the cliche that came to mind!Wow. This is the “cool girl” that all the other first time voters are going to adopt as their role model? The “non-virgin” with the sage advice to the unenlightened?
Her name is Dunham … is she a cousin of the president on Mom’s side?
The not too thinly veiled sexual adventurism that is based all upon romantic feelings almost swallows up the political message. Between the lines one gets the message that "you want to be thinking about giving up that virginity of yours … and be thinking about
the KIND of a guy you decide to (you know …). Marriage? Commitment? Well - Ms. Dunham can MAKE a commitment, you can tell by her bicep tattoo. But marriage isn’t considered in the analogy.
There was a female empowerment ethic there and an “I did it!” at the end. But there was a bit of the thrill of doing something that maybe a (good little) GIRL wouldn’t do but a WOMAN can - and DOES!
Given the polls, it may be backfiring. Suddenly Romney is tied with Obama 47-47 % in the “Women’s Vote”. Maybe this “War on Women” charge leveled at the GOP is falling flat.
I wonder if some women are getting miffed at being reduced to – just needing their sexual irresponsibilities subsidized; or having their role as mothers* trivialized, and the constant class warfare posturing that disturbs the peace many women prefer.
There is something inconguous in the Democrats featuring Sandra Fluke so prominently.
On one hand she looks stylish, young, smart (because she’s in law school) and powerful (as she is a spokesperson for women’s rights before Congress and a convention speaker).
On the other hand - poor Sandra is a victim. She needs help. She simply can’t PAY for all the birth control she needs. That mean ol’ CATHOLIC College has some’o’that wealth that oughtta be redistributed womanward. They should pay her $3000 for her pre-marital sex expenses (it’s only right!). If they refuse they should be sued. And publicly attacked.
Somewhere (I hope) women are thinking “THIS is what they think of us?” Victims as hopelessly helpless as that might need to sue the Knights of Columbus for limo rides to the polls November 6! And it’s YOUNG women that seem to be the targets of the campaign.
Trouble is rebellious young women can get into trouble – and most of them have Mom’s who instinctively will react in a protective and conservative way when they have a daughter headed for trouble. Even if they were a little wild themselves at that age.
The secondary purpose of Linda Dunham’s commercial might be largely to insure her own future credentials as a producer in liberal Hollywood perhaps. But she might be sincere (as she can be). The tenor of the ad is confidential (just between us girls) and
revealing (the experienced “woman” shows the “girls” what they want to do). There is
a bit of humor in turning the sexual innuendo into a political commercial … but the conspiritorial manner of Ms. Dunham built her tale of “her first time” into a tale of empowerment and rebellion.
That line in the sand she crossed was like something she knew other people would advise her against. But she drew back the curtains … went inside … and cast her first vote for … Ba-rack O-BA-ma! Then she waved her commercial to a close with a
coquettish and fashionable “aren’t I naughty …” look; to reveal that it’s what the hip crowd is doing.
I wasn’t really offended by the ad. But I was amazed at its disingenuous blindness to the
fact that the ad could backfire and lose more votes than gain them for the President.
If that’s the case … I REAALLY won’t be offended by it. Though it might lead some young women astray on the non-political front. :sad_yes:
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I agree, MJE. There is something dark and vulgar about this ad and about Obama’s campaign in general. There are two Americas: one that thinks that ad is savvy and hip and would react positively to it. And another America that would regard this as vulgar and offensive. Then there is the middle - which is probably too busy watching American idol or Monday Night Football to notice that there is a cultural war going on in this country - between the secular left which is all about gays and abortion and the right which still believes in preserving traditional institutions. Then there’s a fourth group (many who post on this forum) made up of those on the left and the right who are cynical and apathetic: they say, " it doesn’t matter who you vote for, they’re all bad…there’s no difference between Romney and Obama…Romney won’t ban abortion…Romney is still for abortion in cases of rape…I disagree with Obama on abortion but Republicans want to kill poor people, so I’m not voting at all and that makes me better than all the rest of you…Romney only wants to ban abortions in most cases, not all cases so I’m not voting… " etc. etc.
Our country is divided between the cultural left and the right. We have a chance to repudiate the left at the polls on Nov. 6, and atleast kick the left’s chosen son out of office.
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The “first time” ad was made by LENA Dunham. Not Linda (unless that’s an aka for the same person). 
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And it was patterned after ads run by Vladimir Putins campiagn.The “first time” ad was made by LENA Dunham. Not Linda (unless that’s an aka for the same person).
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Well, that just makes it worse!
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Romney made it pretty clear that he isn’t going to make abortions illegal.
When Romney says that he is for abortions for women’s health/life, he’s basically supporting therapeutic abortions. It is widely known that there are no cases where an abortion is necessary to save a women’s life.
Considering that he wants to keep contraceptives available to women and opposes banning abortion and supports gay adoption, I can’t for the life of me understand why any Catholic would vote for him. He’s almost as bad as Obama. You are deluding yourself if you think otherwise IMO.
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Obama surrounds himself with NARAL, and Kathleen Sebelius. Romney surrounds himself with Paul Ryan and Robert Bork. Anyone who can’t see the difference between the two is either themselves confused (or deluded) - or - is deliberately trying to mislead voters into not voting for Romney. I wouldn’t want to be either.
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A president can’t “make abortions illegal.” What he can do is shape the court so that it overturns Roe V Wade.
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Pork Roll, you’re confused: A president can’t “make abortions illegal.” What he can do is help shape the court so that it overturns Roe V Wade.
Obama surrounds himself with NARAL, and Kathleen Sebelius. Romney surrounds himself with Paul Ryan and Robert Bork. Anyone who can’t see the difference between the two is either themselves confused (or deluded) - or - is deliberately trying to mislead voters into not voting for Romney. I wouldn’t want to be either.
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Who cares who Romney surrounds himself with, it’s his policies that are important. He’s not pro-life, he doesn’t want to ban abortion, he supports gay adoption and contraceptives coverage through health insurance. No catholic should in good conscience vote for a pro-abortion candidate when there are pro-life candidates like Virgil Goode.
A president can certainly sign legislation making abortion illegal nationally which is the goal of the catholic pro-life movement. Romney is opposed to this.
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Exactly. Not to mention the millions who were never conceived to begin with as a result of hormonal contraception.
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From APSome District of Columbia leaders are disappointed that President Barack Obama hasn’t been more of an advocate for local autonomy.
Obama carried Washington in 2008 with 92 percent of the vote, a high percentage even in the overwhelmingly Democratic city.
But four years later, the district’s 618,000 residents still lack representation in Congress. And the city’s budget and laws remain subject to congressional review.
In the District, we are dealing with a classic case of Battered Wife Syndrome.
(Of course, a case could be made with the battered wives of the GOP: the conservatives)
Obama carried Washington in 2008 with 92 percent of the vote, a high percentage even in the overwhelmingly Democratic city.
But four years later, the district’s 618,000 residents still lack representation in Congress. And the city’s budget and laws remain subject to congressional review.
In the District, we are dealing with a classic case of Battered Wife Syndrome.
(Of course, a case could be made with the battered wives of the GOP: the conservatives)
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I’ll take that bet! Estesbob, you are one of the most intelligent people here but I respectfully think you are too optimistic.
I was confident that Obama Care was going to be overturned but Roberts screwed that up.
This is not 1984 and Romney isn’t going to win 49 States. Don’t believe everything that Hannity says!!
Last night Laura Ingraham on the O’Reilly factor said that if the election were held today that Obama could win and as anyone knows, Ingraham is no Obama fan.
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I think you meant to write **Romney **has repeatedly said he supports overturning roe v wade, right?
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I fear that Obama will win the election via Ohio. It appears from recent polls that Romney can’t break Obama’s lead in the Buckeye State. Unemployment in Ohio is below the national average and Obama’s auto industry bailout is popular there. I try to be optimistic, but I cannot shake my concerns over Ohio’s electoral votes If anyone has any great news in opposition to my views, please let me know.
By the way, from the Weekly Standard:
*Charles Woods, the father of Tyrone Woods, who was killed in the 9/11 terrorist attack at the American consulate in Benghazi, Libya, reveals details of meeting Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton at the publically broadcast memorial service for the slain Americans at Andrews Air Force Base only days after the attack. And, in a recent radio appearance, Woods publicly questions who made the call not to send in back-up forces to possibly save his son’s life, as well as the three other Americans killed in Benghazi (which includes the American ambassador to Libya).
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“When [Obama] came over to our little area” at Andrew Air Force Base, says Woods, “he kind of just mumbled, you know, ‘I’m sorry.’ His face was looking at me, but his eyes were looking over my shoulder like he could not look me in the eye. And it was not a sincere, ‘I’m really sorry, you know, that your son died,’ but it was totally insincere, more of whining type, ‘I’m sorry.’”
Woods says that shaking President Obama’s hands at his son’s memorial service was “like shaking hands with a dead fish.”
“It just didn’t feel right,” he says of his encounter with the commander in chief. “And now that it’s coming out that apparently the White House situation room was watching our people die in real time, as this was happening,” Woods says, he wants answers on what happened—and why there was no apparent effort to save his son’s life.
“Well, this is what Hillary did,” Woods continues. “She came over and, you know, did the same thing—separately came over and talked with me. I gave her a hug, shook her hand. And she did not appear to be one bit sincere—at all. And you know, she mentioned that the thing about, we’re going to have that person arrested and prosecuted that did the video. That was the first time I had even heard about anything like that.”
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This is your Commander-In-Chief, 2007 Obama voters. Very inspirational.
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