Um…I said I was kidding. I’m well aware of the benefits of the “return on investment”, which BTW will continue regardless of whether gay people get married or not. Gay marriage will not eliminate heterosexual marriage or the resultant procreation that comes from many heterosexual marriages.
Seeker, thank you for answering before I got back here as I was just about to explain who they are.
I know though just for a couple of for instances they include Christians in the UCC. Their denomination is on record of favoring SS marriage. Include some of the Christians in TEC. In some Episcopal dioceses, their priests have been given permission by their bishops to celebrate blessings of SS couples. Both considered to be mainline Protestants. Unitarian Universalists are another faith community which favors SS marriage. Other mainline Protestant denominations I know have found themselves in the discerning process at one point or another. And you are correct of course. Their interpretation differs from what Catholics believe or accept. But nonetheless they do use Scripture as I’ve seen their interpretations of various verses regarding homosexuality. But as I believe I already explained, I’ve been accused in the past of leading Catholics astray when I’ve posted other denominations’ interpretations of Scripture here. That’s why I can’t explain it in more detail here. Of course then I’m accused of avoidance. But as I said I have previously explained other traditions’ interpretations of Scripture in regard to homosexuality on the non Catholic forum before. And I actually learned their explanations and Biblical interpretations partly by doing my own search of sites on the internet.Jesus reached out to people who were shunned by the society then and converted them. I feel Obama too, is attempting the same. Obama’s approach is not unique; leading Catholic Theologians have already suggested the same in a memorandum to the Pope: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_2011news.msn.com/politics/obama-urges-court-to-overturn-gay-marriage-ban
And California Dreaming is becoming a reality?
"Obama, a former constitutional law professor, raised expectations that he would back a broad brief during his inauguration address on Jan. 21. He said the nation’s journey “is not complete until our gay brothers and sisters are treated like anyone else under the law.”
“For if we are truly created equal, than surely the love we commit to one another must be equal as well,” Obama said."
Wow. Thank you for this from Catholic theologians. God bless.
Your entire post is off-topic.
There is no “approach” except to popularize and legitimatize a fiction called same-sex “mariage.” He does not have a spiritual goal, sir. He has a cultural goal, one which is utterly unharmonious with the goals and approach of Jesus of Nazareth.
“Leading?” Do you even begin to understand that this is a heterodox group of theologians?
The encouragement of this, plus mass infanticide.
That’s not Catholic.
AmenI try to view people in a positive light until such time that they do something that would convince me otherwise. I have friends and co-workers who are atheists and they would no more deny me my right to express my faith than I would deny them their right not to believe what I do. Maybe you’ve just met the wrong atheists!.
Same old, same old, there is no critical view or hate but from the frustrated and misguided. The hate usually comes from the other side also when those who chose to assemble in peace do so.
Again, whoever the President is, their responsibility is to ALL citizens. They aren’t your Priest, or your Pope. It’s not their job to enforce the traditions of your faith. It’s their job to enforce CIVIL law, which is not based on the traditions of any particular faith. And as has been illustrated above, not all faiths reject gay marriage.
Your not accused of anything, to set the record straight it was you who accused. That’s the truth you seem to be having an issue with but still. And I wouldn’t want to defend this horror show if I were you either.Seeker, thank you for answering before I got back here as I was just about to explain who they are.
And our priority is life and the economy hows he doing?
All begins with a thought in the mind none of these thoughts lead to life, one of the same. And both are contrary to Union as acknowledged by life.
Not only that but children have rights. This is hardly ever mentioned. This is not just a sectarian issue but one of human rights. Children ought not be exposed to such things under the cover of civil law. Such laws are unjust. Period.
This thread is discussing gay marriage…if you want to discuss the economy start another one. I’ve gotten clipped for going off topic before so I won’t do it again.
And it effects the economy and life. And no I didn’t bring it into the thread, someone else did. So in our “relevant” conversation it is relevant.
I’d like to see something from an organization that isn’t already against gay marriage. Of course the FRC is going to show “damage”. How about some evidence that the economy and lives of people of states like MA and NY have been harmed exclusively by allowing gay marriage. I mean, I could go to the HRC site and grab any number of studies showing benefits of gay marriage, but you would rightly call bias on that.
Legal here in CT also. which I see no difference from before and after. Its really not an issue at least in the public sense. I think its a mistake to promote as we just don’t know the long term results. There’s noting to compare with. I don’t have an once of hate for these souls. I’m skeptical and I believe its well founded as the full speed ahead thinking has created some on-going dilemmas. Most notably with family in the US. That said it has gained favor because there’s an equality as people which needs to be recognized.
Reaching out is what men and politicians do, it’s a way to persuade you to believe something that can go against all religious and moral truths. I have yet to hear or read about anything Obama believes that could justify him being used in the same paragraph as Jesus let alone the same sentence.
The Netherlands is going on 12 years now. That is the longest. They legalized gay marriage effective in 2001.
Well, there it is, isn’t it? You can still not like gay marriage, you can still teach your children that homosexual behavior is wrong, and if I’m correct, your life hasn’t really changed.
