Opinion on the #Metoo movement

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gcshapero said:
I wouldn’t deny that there is a sexual mistreatment in the culture that has gotten that bad – who could with the establishment of contraception in the culture followed by the sexual revolution?
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gcshapero said:
Yes, mistreating sex will lead to mistreating others.
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That’s what psychologists call “confirmation bias.” You’re creating a correlation that doesn’t actually exist.
 
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It isn t being a moral guardian to say that drinking much is a recipe for disaster if paired with driving. Some have always been sensible pieces of advice.
Taking care of yourself and healthy boundaries isn t a " gender" issue nor anything to be discarded.
 
Excuse you? You’ve accused them of using #metoo as a vehicle to promote sluttishness when they’ve done nothing of the sort. You’ve questioned the legitimacy of their participation in #metoo. EVERY human being has a legitimate part they can play - simply because they re human beings and deserve to be treated accordingly. To say otherwise as you do is indeed to delegitimise and cheapen them.
 
gcshapero said:
Do you think Pope Pius VI had it wrong when he talked about this specific subject? Were his predictions wrong?
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He lived over two hundred years ago. I have no idea what he said about anything.
 
TheAmazingGrace said:
I haven’t seen that at all.
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“I’m proud to be in the Air Force.”

Sort of promotes the USAF as something positive. (I mean, no one says, “I’m proud to be a convicted felon”, right?)

“I’m a slut and I’m proud to be one.”

I’d have to say that sort of promotes it as a positive thing.

If a gay rights march promotes gay rights as a good thing (and don’t think I’m arguing that it doesn’t), or if the marches on Selma in the 1960s promoted racial equality as a good thing, I would think a “slut march” (or whatever that foolishness was) is attempting the same thing.
 
The point you’re trying to make with Amber rose, I think. Basically promiscuous women being in MeToo?
 
I haven’t seen it in the #MeToo movement, is what I meant.
 
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LilyM said:
Excuse you? You’ve accused them of using #metoo as a vehicle to promote sluttishness when they’ve done nothing of the sort. You’ve questioned the legitimacy of their participation in #metoo. EVERY human being has a legitimate part they can play - simply because they re human beings and deserve to be treated accordingly. To say otherwise as you do is indeed to delegitimise and cheapen them.
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LilyM,
With all due respect, when I said they’ve used it as a tool to promote it, I meant it.

I recommend researching the Slut Walk (they have taken place in L.A. and Toronto). They were spawned by the Me Too movement. It is women dressing up in practically nothing (at your risk, search for the images), screaming about being sluts, marching in public, promoting it, saying it’s their bodies and they can do with it what they want, and that it is not an invitation to be raped.

I agree that rape has no justification, but they have now used it as a way to promote something totally immoral and only allows people to look at that lustfully. It appears as an invitation, even though the invitation should always be declined.

I never aid anything devaluing life. I said it was wrong, and it IS wrong. To say it’s OK devalues their life because they should be worth far more than that.

It’s like what Pope JPII said: “The problem with porn isn’t that it shows too much of the woman, but far too little.”
 
phil19034 said:
…as long as many Hollywood actresses continue to objectify themselves; nothing will improve.
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Yes! And not only actresses, but women in general. Far too much of women’s self-worth and confidence is linked with their hair, their makeup, their shoes, their breast size, &c. Men share the blame by having made women think these things are important, but at some point women have got to wake up and realise they are worthy of love and respect even in sneakers and a sweatshirt.
 
Lea101 said:
The point you’re trying to make with Amber rose, I think. Basically promiscuous women being in MeToo?
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Well I said that she has used MeToo to promote promiscuity. She has. You can watch it for yourself on YouTube.
 
I think…he can correct me if I’m wrong…what @gcshapero is saying is that #metoo is a movement to recognize the dignity of women as a human person who is not to be abused or used as a means to an end but it’s difficult to understand how some women insist on the recognition of their dignity by others but then turn around and disrespect their own dignity by consenting to be used by multiple men and using them as well for the sake of “liking sex” (IOW indulging for the sake of pleasure only.)
 
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Slut walks were around - and well-known - for YEARS before #metoo. Do not conflate the two and retract your false claim that #metoo “spawned” slutwalks.
 
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LilyM said:
Slut walks were around - and well-known - for YEARS before #metoo. Do not conflate the two and retract your false claim that #metoo “spawned” slutwalks.
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We can call it the 2nd wave of slutwalks if you like, but the term itself did come from the Me Too movement. The first from this round came from Canada.
 
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I HATE that we are seeing the word “slut” and “sluttish” all over this thread.

At the risk of sounding very modern, this word is very gendered and derogatory when the more neutral word “promiscuous” would do. It is cutting. It is an attack.

At the risk of sounding like a Catholic mama, Our Lady and Our Lord do not look upon these women and call them sluts. Their hearts fill with sadness over women made in the image and likeness of God who do not know their dignity and are in such pain whether they show it or not. Pray for them. Love them. Do NOT use the word slut.
 
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