Parents’ ‘Sex Ed Sit Out’ Protesting Forced Gender Ideology in Schools Spreads Across Country

[Trickypixie]

Homeless teenagers are especially vulnerable to the misinformation regarding sexuality

 

[SuperLuigi]

Depends on how it’s taught. I know when I taught sex ed in a high school I explained that gender is a complex thing, I used the “gender bread man” to help explain.

I’m beginning to see the problem:

But as with anything you start simple at a young age and then build from there. I’m only a high school teacher so I’m not sure how if address it too younger children. Possibly just explain that some people might be born looking like a boy or girl but grow up to realise they really aren’t?

You won’t be teaching my kids anything with that attitude.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Such as…

 

[ThinkingSapien]

This stuff must be pretty confusing for small children.

I don’t think it is. My nephew knows the rules of interacting with a Trans person. He learned them from school. Children being the blank slates that they are are rather adaptable to what ever the rules of their environment may be.

It confuses me as an adult. I still can’t get my head around the concept of a female penis.

I understand it, but I don’t agree with it. given a generic doll if you were to put a dress on the doll you would be femenizing it. Add some other accessories and you would be making it more masculine. The doll itself doesn’t actually have any specific sex. At the simplest level it’s like that. At least that’s a starting point of understanding. Prior to the 1960s the word “gender” had to do more with grammatical categoeies.

Thus far the usage of the word “sex” to refer to someone’s biological characteristics hasn’t changed much. In the state in which I live the drivers livenses list the person’s sex. That word is also recognized by the trans community to refer to biological categories. But the general objection I’ve heard presented to it is that it is rude to ask a person about what’s between their legs.

As much as I hate recommending it there’s an episode of Southpark that explains it well; in their more recent seasons they appeared to have stopped making as much ridiculous things up and appear to rely more on providing commentary for the state of things. There’s also a December 2016 issue of National Geograph that attempts to explain it.

My first time trying to figure all of this out is when I signed up for an online dating site. It took me a while to figure out the right combination of features so that I would only be matched with a person of the female sex that also identified as a woman. At first I was wondering “Why are these dudes dressed as women showing up in my search results.”

 

[ThinkingSapien]

You won’t be teaching my kids anything with that attitude.

Even if a child isn’t taught by their teacher if the child has classmates that did go through the lesson the information might be communicated. They may also pick up on it through media.

Not trans related, but “Steven Universe” on cartoon network has hints of same sex relationships all throughout. Well, some parts are not so subtle, like some kisses or a woman getting jealous that another woman she likes happens to like another man.

 

[Loud-living-dogma]

Am I the only one here that seems concerned that some people think all this gender / sex confusion is normal and justifiable? I get it that a tiny percentage of people didn’t form properly for whatever reason, but why are all these CAF people so accepting of the LGBTQQ agenda? Don’t know whether to laugh or cry…

 

[ThinkingSapien]

I get it that a tiny percentage of people didn’t form properly for whatever reason

Most of this has nothing to do with “intersexed” people.

What I don’t get is that the Trans community will sometime argue that these various things that we associate with gender are social constructs, but at the same time some have said that their affinity to what ever gender that they identify with to be something they were born with and not something they choose. That’s a biological argument.

Is it consistent to use both social construct and the biological arguments? They appear to me to be contrary to each other.

 

[ConfusedLucy]

I think these days the trans spectrum is a lot wider. It used to be just people with gender dysphoria.

 

[laylow]

Am I the only one here that seems concerned that some people think all this gender / sex confusion is normal and justifiable? I get it that a tiny percentage of people didn’t form properly for whatever reason, but why are all these CAF people so accepting of the LGBTQQ agenda? Don’t know whether to laugh or cry…

Why do you think it is a smaller percentage from what is being portrayed? Are you saying the people that have “this agenda” are fabricating their perspective? What would be the motivation of that?

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

Funny how?

 

[Loud-living-dogma]

Loud-living-dogma:

Am I the only one here that seems concerned that some people think all this gender / sex confusion is normal and justifiable? I get it that a tiny percentage of people didn’t form properly for whatever reason, but why are all these CAF people so accepting of the LGBTQQ agenda? Don’t know whether to laugh or cry…

Why do you think it is a smaller percentage from what is being portrayed? Are you saying the people that have “this agenda” are fabricating their perspective? What would be the motivation of that?

The motivation? What is the evil one’s motivation? Destroying humanity and the good in our society?

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

But I’m not sure how a transwoman can be seen as a man when they in no way inhabit that role, nor claim it

Because they don’t do the heavy lifting of womanhood.
They don’t have monthly cycles that affect every part of their psyche.
They don’t go through labor or delivery.
Nor will they ever know what it is to get their period when they were wishing for a pregnancy.
They don’t know the heartbreak of miscarriage.
They don’t know what it is to see all that fertility end some day–a time of bittersweet.
They get to put on some high heels and makeup and call themselves a girl.
But they don’t do the everyday womaning that actual women do.

 

[SuperLuigi]

Even if a child isn’t taught by their teacher if the child has classmates that did go through the lesson the information might be communicated. They may also pick up on it through media.

The one thing you left out: parents.

 

[Elf01]

I’m sure you don’t mean it to come across like you’re implying that a woman who needed a hystrocemy before her first period is any less a woman.

 

[0Scarlett_nidiyilii]

Thank you for pointing that out.
No, I do not–the loss of the uterus and the infertility that ensues in no way makes a woman less of a woman.
It happened to my aunt–because reasons she had a hysterectomy in her early teens. She went on to marry, but it was a wound that never quite healed…
And it is a definite wound that only another woman can understand.

 

[ConfusedLucy]

As a woman even without a uterus you are still the sex that has periods, at some point in your life you will still get “time of the month love?” comments when you have had the audacity to get annoyed at something.

 

[Alex337]

Alex337:

We try to teach that anyone may be uncomfortable around, well, anyone in certain situations. And it is good to respect peoples comfort zones. Everyone has a need for privacy at times.

Would this principle apply to teens who wish to opt out of the class? Are their sexual boundaries being honored in this regard?

I’ve taught in both the UK and Australia in secondary schools and in neither case is a teacher allowed to force a student to be in their classroom. Teens actually are able to “opt out” of classes. If they do so I know two of the schools I taught at had rooms they could go to in order to study without the rest of the class, a single teacher manned this room.

In these instances the school needs to work with the student to understand why they are refusing to join the class. It’s vitally important to do so as this could be a sign the student is afraid.

ConfusedLucy:

I just don’t think it’s any better for a man to have to take a beating, I suppose you could argue men have more sense skulls but it doesn’t make it morally right.

I never said anyone HAD to take a beating.

Consider this scenario:

A less physically imposing male is upset by something that happened on the road, but refrains from a reaction to hopefully avoid confrontation. He does so because he feels like he would be at a disadvantage in a possible physical confrontation.

A less physically imposing woman is upset by something that happened on the road, but decides that she will display her displeasure in the form of a middle finger. She decides to do so because she has concluded society says that it would be improper for a man to impose any physical harm onto her under ANY circumstances.

Under both circumstances, that odds are overwhelmingly against these particular drivers in “prevailing” in a physical confrontation. However, because of one’s sex, a different decision is made due to complacency of a misguided system of logic.

Real question; what would you have done if it had been a man?

Yelled, flipped them off and honked your horn? All that achieves is taking your mind off the road. And has absolutely no impact on whether or not the hypothetical man was bigger or smaller than you. Any situation in which you would have been able to initiate a physical conflict would be really extreme like following them until they stopped or trying to run them off the road; neither of those are okay regardless of gender.

I don’t think the woman flipped you off because she felt secure from your violence due to her gender; I think she did it because she was safely encapsulated in a metal transport machine.

Now as a follow up; I do think women deserve equal treatment. And I don’t think you should be hitting anyone. It’s just not very Christian to go about hitting folks.

There are a few instances where I would agree with hitting folks; if they attack me or if they are attacking someone I care about. In neither of these instances does gender matter.

 

[Alex337]

It may be against practice for teachers. It is common practice in the queer community. I don’t know why you would have difficulty figuring out that you were a girl or that you would become a woman but I don’t think that’s a common experience 4 little girls. I never questioned my gender. The queer community has every single teenager and children much younger questioning this because they have promoted questioning as being the norm, when in fact it is a disorder.
The politically correct movement distorts the truth and the queer community is oppressive once the question is asked.
If a child questions, no one is allowed to ask real questions in response no matter how reasonable. We are called bullies because we don’t buy the lack of facts supporting the conclusion.

I work with the queer community often and have not heard them tell children what their gender is. Indeed they campaign to have people be allowed to question their gender in peace; to not be told their gender.

You may not have questioned your gender, which is nice, but many teenagers do.

And questions are certainly allowed. But one needs to be respectful.

 

[Alex337]

Alex337:

It held to the same physical standards I see no problem with it.

If they could pass the exact same PT test and tasks and training, and if there was a strict no fraternization policy, I’d consider it.

The fact of the matter however, is that very few women, even women already in the US Army for example, would be able to pass the male PT tests and infantry training.

I agree. But if they can then I feel they should be treated equally. But to be fair this point was largely raised to show that women most definitely do campaign for equality even when it may not be a “good” thing for us.

Alex337:

But I’m not sure how a transwoman can be seen as a man when they in no way inhabit that role, nor claim it

Because they don’t do the heavy lifting of womanhood.
They don’t have monthly cycles that affect every part of their psyche.
They don’t go through labor or delivery.
Nor will they ever know what it is to get their period when they were wishing for a pregnancy.
They don’t know the heartbreak of miscarriage.
They don’t know what it is to see all that fertility end some day–a time of bittersweet.
They get to put on some high heels and makeup and call themselves a girl.
But they don’t do the everyday womaning that actual women do.

They certainly seem to do the “heavy lifting of womanhood”

Now for an area of Too Much Information.
Neither of my grandmothers ever menstruated. Both had ovarian cancer when they were children and later had to adopt; they never went through labor, they never misscarried, and their fertility period never began in order to end. Were they not women? Did they not share the weight of womanhood?

 

[Alex337]

Thank you for pointing that out.
No, I do not–the loss of the uterus and the infertility that ensues in no way makes a woman less of a woman.
It happened to my aunt–because reasons she had a hysterectomy in her early teens. She went on to marry, but it was a wound that never quite healed…
And it is a definite wound that only another woman can understand.

Actually many transwomen do seem to understand it quite a bit. I’ve held a transwoman in my arms as she wept over this.