Paul Ryan!!

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Another flaw is that Ryan is so far to the right, it will alienate undecideds and moderates. I can understand why that would appeal to you all as a conservative catholic community
There’s no such thing as too far to the right for most posters here.
 
Social Security is already broke, and it is now SS checks are being raided (up to 15%) to pay defaulted student loans… SURPRISE! So, if you secured a loan so your son or grandson could go to college and defaulted on the loan, they will tap your social security check.

The Debt Collection Improvement Act of 1996 (31 U.S.C. Section 3716(c)(A)(i)) now allows federal government agencies to offset Social Security benefits to collect debts such as student loans. Formerly these benefits were totally exempt; now you’re left with a maximum exemption of $9,000 each year.

You can thank Bill Clinton for that one.
And well worth thanking him for. You turn away from your obligations and you still expect your welfare benefits. What could be more immoral than that. You should lose all your benefits until you pay your obligations.
 
Paul Ryan’s world view brings this election front and center as to what kind of nation we are going to be going forward. One still with some empathy for the less fortunate and those in need. Or one that would be willing in such a severe way to balance the budget on the backs of the poor and the sick while continuing to benefit the rich with further tax cuts. I can only say good luck everyone.
 
There’s no such thing as too far to the right for most posters here.
Or too left…be fair. You know as well as I do that some of the posters here would be delighted if Congress was effectively abolished, Obama given “President for Life” status, nationalized the entire economy, and banned private gun ownership. Admit it.
 
Paul Ryan’s world view brings this election front and center as to what kind of nation we are going to be going forward. One still with some empathy for the less fortunate and those in need. Or one that would be willing in such a severe way to balance the budget on the backs of the poor and the sick while continuing to benefit the rich with further tax cuts. I can only say good luck everyone.
I expect that Romney/Ryan will go for the latter. IMO.
 
Paul Ryan’s world view brings this election front and center as to what kind of nation we are going to be going forward. One still with some empathy for the less fortunate and those in need. Or one that would be willing in such a severe way to balance the budget on the backs of the poor and the sick while continuing to benefit the rich with further tax cuts. I can only say good luck everyone.
The alternative is that we become Greece in 2-3 years under Obama, with 25%+ unemployment, faltering banks, and hyperinflation. Try caring for the poor when your national currency is meaningless and no other country on the planet will loan you money.
 
Or too left…be fair. You know as well as I do that some of the posters here would be delighted if Congress was effectively abolished, Obama given “President for Life” status, nationalized the entire economy, and banned private gun ownership. Admit it.
Sure; there are such libs, but I’ve not seen them on the Forum. That bunch is on the outside.
 
Until recently I had no idea how many Catholics were in government.

The Vice President is Catholic, Nancy Pelosi is Catholic, a lot of the governors are Catholic, 6 of the Supreme Court Justices are Catholic.

Wow.
Most of them are Catholic in name only
 
Rubbish. It is ObamaTax will that will hurt seniors by cutting Medicare Advantage payment rates by 2017 an average of $3700 for every person. 27% below what recipients would receive with out ObamaTax. If they lose $3700 annually in Medicare from 65 years old until their death at 78 they would lose $44000 in benefits and medicare spending would increase $25 billion with ObamaTax
Medicare Advantage is a seperate enity from standard Medicare, which saving is dire, even if it will lead to higher taxation. Ryans plan to convert to a voucher program is misguided and a shameless attempt to cater to the fiscal right. Seniors deserve defined and structured benifits.
 
Paul Ryan’s world view brings this election front and center as to what kind of nation we are going to be going forward. One still with some empathy for the less fortunate and those in need. Or one that would be willing in such a severe way to balance the budget on the backs of the poor and the sick while continuing to benefit the rich with further tax cuts. I can only say good luck everyone.
Look at the bright side, CMatt. This will probably bring the bishops and the goods sister together. Both agree that Ryan’s budget proposals would be a disaster for the poor.
 
No. That’s fear mongering from the left. Ryan’s budget does not change anything for current or** soon-to-be seniors**.

You have more to fear from Obamacare
And that’s my only complaint! At 58, I’m not far from Medicare. I will “yell” it: I DON’T WANT MY HEALTH CARE CONTROLLED BY THE GOVERNMENT!! I want the CHOICE of a voucher for premiums to continue my private health care plan. After all, its MY money that I paid in since I was in my teens!! The current president said I can keep my current plan, and that’s what I want. In short, I don’t trust the government to do my health care.

I said in earlier threads that I wanted to vote for one of the Catholic candidates for president. That didn’t happen, but now I have the honor of voting for the true Catholic for vice president!

Jon
 
Romney just handed Obama the senior vote on a silver platter.

What a moronic selection.
Yup, my thoughts exactly.

As far as Ryan being a good Catholic, the USCCB’s said is budget proposal failed morally.

Jim
 
Well at least they managed to get the one guy of color in the head shot. Haven’t seen any others in the crowd.
 
Medicare Advantage is a seperate enity from standard Medicare, which saving is dire, even if it will lead to higher taxation. Ryans plan to convert to a voucher program is misguided and a shameless attempt to cater to the fiscal right. Seniors deserve defined and structured benifits.
The best way to save medicare is to base it on the benefit principle. Those who benefit from it, seniors, should pay for it. Why should working people be forced to sacrifice for seniors who don’t work? Nobody has the right to demand that others make sacrifices for them.
 
Justa Servant beat me to it, but it’s worth repeating. Paul Ryan voted for the indefinite detention of US citizens on vague criteria under the NDAA, He voted for the Patriot Act, and he voted to bailout GM and Chrysler to the amount of 15 billion.
A vote for Romney or Obama is a vote for more government control, more war, and a globalist economy that's destroying our future. It's time to kick out both parties once and for all.
 
This had to be the dumbest choice for VP since McCain’s choice in Palin.

Romney needs the independent vote, not the base conservative Republican vote.

Choosing Ryan, sends the independents to Obama, or they’ll just stay home, in which chase, Obama wins.

Fact is, by choosing Ryan, Romney will lose his own state of Massachusetts.

Jim
 
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