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Perhaps you could post what Ryan has praised Rand for, rather than speculating with innuendo?When an economic philosophy begin with the premise that there is no God - where does it go from there? This is why Ayn Rand’s philosophy is inherently atheist. She does not see a world populated by people who are all equally loved by their creator, but one that is divided between “prime movers” and “parasites”. There is no moral reason to care for those who cannot care for themselves.
THAT is too freaky for words! Nice observation.![]()
It’s a pity others aren’t so harsh on similar radical atheists and abortion supporters (Maya Angelou ring a bell?)
From Ryan’s mouth, at the 2005 Atlas Society event:
(1:45) I just want to speak to you a little bit about Ayn Rand and what she meant to me in my life and [in] the fight we’re engaged here in Congress. I grew up on Ayn Rand, that’s what I tell people…you know everybody does their soul-searching, and trying to find out who they are and what they believe, and you learn about yourself.
(2:01) I grew up reading Ayn Rand and it taught me quite a bit about who I am and what my value systems are, and what my beliefs are. It’s inspired me so much that it’s required reading in my office for all my interns and my staff. We start with Atlas Shrugged. People tell me I need to start with The Fountainhead then go to Atlas Shrugged [laughter]. There’s a big debate about that. We go to Fountainhead, but then we move on, and we require Mises and Hayek as well.
2:23) But the reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand. And the fight we are in here, make no mistake about it, is a fight of individualism versus collectivism
2:38) In almost every fight we are involved in here, on Capitol Hill, whether it’s an amendment vote that I’ll take later on this afternoon, or a big piece of policy we’re putting through our Ways and Means Committee, it is a fight that usually comes down to one conflict: individualism vs. collectivism.
(2:54) And so when you take a look at where we are today, ah, some would say we’re on offense, some would say we’re on defense, I’d say it’s a little bit of both. And when you look at the twentieth-century experiment with collectivism—that Ayn Rand, more than anybody else, did such a good job of articulating the pitfalls of statism and collectivism—you can’t find another thinker or writer who did a better job of describing and laying out the moral case for capitalism than Ayn Rand.
(3: 21) It’s so important that we go back to our roots to look at Ayn Rand’s vision, her writings, to see what our girding, under-grounding [sic] principles are. I always go back to, you know, Francisco d’Anconia’s speech (at Bill Taggart’s wedding) on money when I think about monetary policy. And then I go to the 64-page John Galt speech, you know, on the radio at the end, and go back to a lot of other things that she did, to try and make sure that I can check my premises so that I know that what I’m believing and doing and advancing are square with the key principles of individualism…
atlassociety.org/ele/blog/2012/04/30/paul-ryan-and-ayn-rands-ideas-hot-seat-again(6:53) Is this an easy fight? Absolutely not…But if we’re going to actually win this we need to make sure that we’re solid on premises, that our principles are well-defended, and if we want to go and articulately defend these principles and what they mean to our society, what they mean for the trends that we set internationally, we have to go back to Ayn Rand. Because there is no better place to find the moral case for capitalism and individualism than through Ayn Rand’s writings and works.
(emphasis mine)
Ryan picks up on Rand’s Collectivism vs. Induvidualism themes, as many have (see Rush’s 2112, or even some Obama supporters (Anne Hathaway, Brad Pitt, Sandra Bullock, and Eva Mendes, plus Angelina Jolie).
I haven’t seen anything Ryan does, proposes, or has proposed in his career as being “Randian”.
Rand was no conservative. Rand was continually at odds with the founders of modern conservatism (just read William F. Buckley’s, a Catholict I might add, obit of Rand, or his review of Atlas Shrugged),
aynrand.org/site/PageServer?pagename=objectivism_faq#obj_nr_vs_ar
absolutely hated Reagan,
dangerousminds.net/comments/ayn_rand_absolutely_hated_ronald_reagan
and derides conservatives in general.
I want people here to put up or shut up:
Please point out what policy proposed by Ryan, what ideas espoused by Ryan (outside of the individualism vs. collectivism dichotomy) would be in agreement with Ayn Rand’s objectivism philosophy…
or to stop beating this obviously dead horse.