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Richardols:
Haven’t hear that the 700 Club or John Ankerburg or John Hagee present magisterial Catholic views either.
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When you use John Hagee as a foil for NPR, you’ve laready lost the battle.

I tried to enter this yesterday but the system crashed.
 
Lisa N:
Yonnie my experience as well. I used to wait anxiously for Talk of the Nation to come on because it was often extremely interesting and I never missed Science Friday. But as I mentioned, once the 2000 election was decided and with only a small period of sanity after 9/11, the true colors of this station became evident. There were constant gratuitous comments about President Bush and the “religious right”, never positive. The most infuriating was a story about President Bush’s faith in which the panelists recoiled in horror at the thought that President Bush actually BELIEVES in God and that he prays regularly. Now how scary is THAT???

Lisa N
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I used to love the Diane Rheem show. I knew she was liberal but had always seemed to try to hear both sides. But after 2000 she was gone too.
 
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patg:
I’m glad you know exactly what they mean - then you don’t have to listen or maybe even learn something.

I will even occassionally listen to such pinnacles of knowledge, wisdom, fairness, and moderation as Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan, Bill O’Reilly, and Lou Dobbs - I think one should always experience both sides…
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Are you suggesting our tax dollars should pay Rush, Buchanon et al? That’s the difference. If Terry Gross wants to blather on in liberalspeak she’s welcome to do so but I don’t want to pay for it. Sadly I understand the funding was returned to PBS so I guess Big Bird will get his scratch.

Lisa N
 
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Yonnie:
I used to love the Diane Rheem show. I knew she was liberal but had always seemed to try to hear both sides. But after 2000 she was gone too.
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She sounded like Daniel Shorr’s grandmother. :eek:
 
I listen to NPR more than I do PBS. That being said: Whenever I hear people griping and moaning about the spin the network puts on its news and commentary, I stop for a moment and assess two things. What is the political bias of the one complaining, and what is the bias of the one to whom he/she was listening. What I come up with WAY more often than not is that the complainer is a liberal (or conservative) who was listening to someone speak with a conservative (or liberal) viewpoint, i.e. the one opposite their own. Thus, for airing such stuff, the network is obviously a biased network with an axe to grind.

The fact is that I hear as many people griping about the conservative bent as I do about the liberal bent.

So - I sum it up - when you air enough controversial stuff that you have people on both sides of the spectrum complaining that you are biased toward their dislikes, then in truth you’re presenting a pretty balanced set of viewpoints.

A caveat need to be issued, however. And I issue it as one who has done his share of news programming - no matter how you try, there is always going to be someone displeased. It’s an immutable law. AND, just as my friend who are statisticians and psychometrics experts tell me that only God can truly make a random selection, it is just as true that nobody SHORT of God can produce broadcast programming that is PERFECTLY balanced at all times in all ways.

I say let PBS and NPR go for it! Keep on keepin on!
 
Only problem is NPR and PBS are onesided but taxpayer supported by both.
 
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patg:
I’m glad you know exactly what they mean - then you don’t have to listen or maybe even learn something.

I will even occassionally listen to such pinnacles of knowledge, wisdom, fairness, and moderation as Rush Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan, Bill O’Reilly, and Lou Dobbs - I think one should always experience both sides…
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Of those you listed only Buchanan would qualify as conservative. The rest are like the liberals on NPR, that is moral relativists that place politics and secularism as the highest ideal.
 
I would not even include Pat Buchanan. When he worked for Nixon he endored policies which are the definition of “neo-con”–Straussian anti-communism. After 1992, he went populist. Got paid millions by Millikin to push for tarrifs. Starting hanging out with the far left. Only thing which tags him as the right are his social views.
 
I get very confused when people compare NPR or PBS to Fox or right-wing radio talk. There is no comparison–especially with right-wing radio talk. I have listened to Limbaugh and Savage, and these guys just go on rants and don’t let the other side have a say. They screen the calls and get all these “ditto-heads” or yes-men who call in and when somebody does disagree they use insults and invective.

NPR talk hosts–even Terri Gross–have people of all political stripes on and ask all of them tough questions. When Diane Riehm talks about current affairs she has journalists from the left and the right on together and they debate. I don’t know how people can accuse NPR, the only intelligent radio, of being left-wing biased.

Furthermore, just because somebody likes Prairie Home Companion doesn’t mean that they are a leftie for goodness sake. I love it because I am from Wisconsin and can relate to his stories. I think his Guy whatever his name is detective tales are lame, and I am not fond of the music, but I love his Lake Wobegone stories.

The whole purpose of public TV and radio is not to go for the lowest common denominator. We get enough of that with commercial radio and TV.
 
Your kidding when you try to picture NPR as somehow not liberally bent. I have listened to NPR for years now, and they definately go easier on liberals than conservatives. They also have many more liberals on their shows than conservatives. But don’t take my word for it:

In 2003 NPR’s own official ombudsman, Jeffrey Dvorkin, admitted a liberal bias in NPR’s talk programming. The daily program “Fresh Air with Terry Gross” – a 60-minute talk show about the arts, literature and also politics – airs on 378 public-radio stations across the fruited plain. The same year, Gross became a hot topic on journalism Web sites for first having a friendly, giggly interview with “satirist” Al Franken, promoting his rant against conservatives on Sept. 3, 2003 and then on Oct. 8, 2003 unloading an accusatory, hostile interview on Bill O’Reilly’s show. She pressed the Fox host to respond to the obnoxious attacks of Franken and other critics. Dvorkin ruled: “Unfortunately, the (O’Reilly) interview only served to confirm the belief, held by some, in NPR’s liberal media bias … by coming across as a pro-Franken partisan rather than a neutral and curious journalist, Gross did almost nothing that might have allowed the interview to develop.”
 
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bapcathluth:
I get very confused when people compare NPR or PBS to Fox or right-wing radio talk. There is no comparison–especially with right-wing radio talk. I have listened to Limbaugh and Savage, and these guys just go on rants and don’t let the other side have a say. They screen the calls and get all these “ditto-heads” or yes-men who call in and when somebody does disagree they use insults and invective.

NPR talk hosts–even Terri Gross–have people of all political stripes on and ask all of them tough questions. When Diane Riehm talks about current affairs she has journalists from the left and the right on together and they debate. I don’t know how people can accuse NPR, the only intelligent radio, of being left-wing biased.

Furthermore, just because somebody likes Prairie Home Companion doesn’t mean that they are a leftie for goodness sake. I love it because I am from Wisconsin and can relate to his stories. I think his Guy whatever his name is detective tales are lame, and I am not fond of the music, but I love his Lake Wobegone stories.

The whole purpose of public TV and radio is not to go for the lowest common denominator. We get enough of that with commercial radio and TV.
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I consider myself to be very conservative - and I find myself listening to “Prarie Home Companion” nearly every weekend. (it’s Guy Nuare - I think I spelled this wrong). ALthough Garrison Kealor is a Democrat, the show doesnt tend to be either liveral or conservative.

I also listen to “Click and Clack” and “Live from the Riverwalk”.
 
Here in San Antonio - we have two Public Radio Stations. NPR and one that plays Classical Music 24/7.
 
I don’t think the problem people have is not that Savage is right wing and NPR is left wing. Its either 1) that it’s government funded and it is shouldn’t be biased at all or atleast it should have bias balanced out. Talk radio is on commercial radio and either side can go out and get time on a station. That or 2) it should not be funded at all, cause the govenment shouldn’t be in the business of funding things like that.
 
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Adonis33:
I consider myself to be very conservative - and I find myself listening to “Prarie Home Companion” nearly every weekend. (it’s Guy Nuare - I think I spelled this wrong). ALthough Garrison Kealor is a Democrat, the show doesnt tend to be either liveral or conservative.

I also listen to “Click and Clack” and “Live from the Riverwalk”.
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Then you didn’t listen to Garrison Kealor during the elections last year!

also see:
inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/979/
 
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gilliam:
Then you didn’t listen to Garrison Kealor during the elections last year!

also see:
inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/979/
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I admit - I didn’t listen much during the election. I was refring to recently. I allso remember an interview on “O’Rielly” - and he didn’t seem like the “I Hate Bush” type of Democrat.

I read part of the article you linked - how sad. I didn’t realize he was capable of such ignorant blather and name calling. He seems so tame from what I have listend to. I guess I was wrong.;
 
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bapcathluth:
I get very confused when people compare NPR or PBS to Fox or right-wing radio talk. There is no comparison–especially with right-wing radio talk. I have listened to Limbaugh and Savage, and these guys just go on rants and don’t let the other side have a say. They screen the calls and get all these “ditto-heads” or yes-men who call in and when somebody does disagree they use insults and invective.
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Rush Limbaugh and Michael Savage and others have to pay their own way. They do that by ratings. If people don’t listen to them, they will disappear from the airwaves.

Shows on NPR don’t have to have the same ratings because they are supported by tax dollars. Those tax dollars come from all taxpayers, including those who don’t listen. Therefore, they obviously don’t have to succeed in the arena of public opinion in the same way Rush or Michael Savage do.

Comparing the two is comparing apples to oranges. Compare Rush to Air America (or whatever the liberal radio network is called) and you have a valid comparison. And if you do, you will see a rather dramatic difference in audience size between the two.

Peace

Tim
 
Have you ever listened to Air America? I is like listening to Tokyo Rose
 
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gilliam:
Then you didn’t listen to Garrison Kealor during the elections last year!
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A good article by Keillor. I previously considered him a more mild Democrat than he apparently is.
 
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