Poll: 50 percent of all Catholics support abortion in ‘all or most cases’

[Midwest88]

I wonder how many of these “Catholics” are practicing, their politics, how knowledgeable they are about their faith, and if their experience is more than Christmas & Easter mass. That’s what I want to know

 

[Glad2behome]

I wonder how many of these “Catholics” are practicing and their knowledge of the faith expands more than weekly sermons and the Eucharist. That’s what I want to know

In my area? Kyrie eleison!! The GREAT majority of these “Catholics” that know what the Church says, that are “practicing” and receive the Eucharist support baby killing. And The Bishop just smiles and says in a quite voice “You know…the Church says…” and before he can finish, some of these “Catholics” just stop listening and some even shout “NAZI! WOMEN HATER!”

 

[Midwest88]

In my area? Kyrie eleison!! The GREAT majority of these “Catholics” that know what the Church says, that are “practicing” and receive the Eucharist support baby killing. And The Bishop just smiles and says in a quite voice “You know…the Church says…” and before he can finish, some of these “Catholics” just stop listening and some even shout “NAZI! WOMEN HATER!”

You serious?

 

[Glad2behome]

You serious?

Yep. “LGBT ministries” at “catholic” parishes are more common then house flies. One “parish” still follows the old missal, a.k.a “and also with you…” but that is besides the point. Most “catholics” in my area are far-left on the issues of abortion and gay marriage.

 

[Holly3278]

Wow. How disgusting! They might be Catholics but they are not orthodox Catholics if they believe abortion is acceptable.

 

[Glad2behome]

Wow. How disgusting! They might be Catholics but they are not orthodox Catholics if they believe abortion is acceptable.

Well…in my area there a is a inside joke, “renegade parishes” are the ones that are faithful to the Church and Her Vicar. The “normal” ones are having clown “masses” and having pro-child killing speakers during the homily.

And I a “mass” were people and the priest are dressed as clowns.

Luckily, I go to a Parish that celibates lovely and reverent OF and EF Masses!

 

[KnightVigilant]

No such thing as a pro-abortion Catholic.

 

[Midwest88]

Yep. “LGBT ministries” at “catholic” parishes are more common then house flies. One “parish” still follows the old missal, a.k.a “and also with you…” but that is besides the point. Most “catholics” in my area are far-left on the issues of abortion and gay marriage.

What in their minds led them to this oxymoron that is “far-left” and Catholicism?

If you don’t mind me asking, where do you live?

 

[ssancho]

It’s the same pathetic excuses its to cold, its too far, I will pray, and I would miss a day’s pay.

The reason of missing a day’s pay is not necessarily a bad reason. Some people have families to support and can’t afford to miss a day’s pay, unless they want their kids to starve.

 

[freiabereinsam]

This is awful, but we know that there are a great many Catholics who do not accept–perhaps some who do not even know–what the Church has to say on this or why.

You and Mark make valid points. Catholics (and others) seem to no longer hear about sin and hell. Seems that only God’s love, mercy and forgiveness are what is preached anymore and only the feel-good, “I’m okay, you’re okay” aspects of faith are emphasized. While He does love us and wants each of us to end up in paradise with Him, He has also given us laws to live by and told us of the consequences of choosing to not follow His commandments. Being reminded of consequences of our bad choices just isn’t done anymore. But, in the end, His perfect justice will prevail.

This is unfortunate, but very true.

Has anyone read “Slouching Towards Gomorrah” by the late Judge Robert Bork (also a convert to Catholicism)? He states exactly this–that the message of the church, and its moral authority as a result, have weakened, and that people in the pews no longer hear anything about sin, virtue or damnation but hear everything about the eternity of the afterlife and the generosity of God–or, as he puts it, the church is all carrot and no stick. He concedes that this may make the church look more “polite”, even more humane, but this causes people to become less moral. He even claims (and I wouldn’t be surprised) that Catholics have even higher rates of abortion than Protestants and Jews.

 

[migueltojose]

This is awful, but we know that there are a great many Catholics who do not accept–perhaps some who do not even know–what the Church has to say on this or why.

This is unfortunate, but very true.

Has anyone read “Slouching Towards Gomorrah” by the late Judge Robert Bork (also a convert to Catholicism)? He states exactly this–that the message of the church, and its moral authority as a result, have weakened, and that people in the pews no longer hear anything about sin, virtue or damnation but hear everything about the eternity of the afterlife and the generosity of God–or, as he puts it, the church is all carrot and no stick. He concedes that this may make the church look more “polite”, even more humane, but this causes people to become less moral. He even claims (and I wouldn’t be surprised) that Catholics have even higher rates of abortion than Protestants and Jews.

The trappings of too good a quality of life.

It’s like politicians. They can’t get elected telling the truth. That’s why we can’t do the hard stuff. Nobody wants too. It’s hard. Austerity? We’ll go broke first. Or become an autocratic society (as in “not free”). One way or the other, something’s got to give.

The Church has already lost way too much “market share” to other friendlier denominations (see success oriented megachurches). They are doing what they can to hold on to what they’ve got. I doubt more fire and brimstone will help. I agree it’s needed and necessary… but it will only fuel the flames… Pope Francis seems to be making/taking a conciliatory tone/approach. There is a certain amount of psychology to sales.

 

[Glad2behome]

What in their minds led them to this oxymoron that is “far-left” and Catholicism?

If you don’t mind me asking, where do you live?

Well, I don’t know where those persons get the idea that lead them to this conclusion. And I will just say I live in area that “Catholics” are among the most “liberal” of all religious groups.

 

[Slaney]

Sadly People have abortions for all kinds of reasons, and no matter how much we disagree with such sin we can and should be able to agree that such sins are personally decided upon by the people who commit them. And they come from all segments of our society and no matter what, they will find a source for funding, they always have.
Blame cannot be placed upon any one else.
We can, and most of us here would, point out to them how wrong and deadly to their souls it would be, and the alienation they will suffer from God who creates all his children.
We who condemn, must remember that only God judges the deep heart of all of us.
We pray for the redemption of all sinners.
Peace, Carlan

As was pointed out to me and has been pointed out since on this forum " we can judge peoples actions, courts of law judge, a parent judges their children, what we can’t do is judge souls, only God Almighty can do that " If society weren’t allowed to judge, then there would be no prisoners in prison, & no one on death row…but that is as far as death row can go, their souls are up to God…

 

[Tomdstone]

This is awful. So many things have changed during my lifetime that I never would have thought possible as a young adult. God help us.

I realize that a Catholic following the teachings of Holy Mother Church does not support abortion. But, it is still devastating to know that so many who identify as Catholic support the intrinsic evil of abortion.

"Poll: 50 percent of all Catholics support abortion in ‘all or most cases’

July 25, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Half of all Catholics believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases, according to a poll commissioned by The Washington Post and ABC in the wake of the murder convictions of Philadelphia House of Horrors abortionist Kermit Gosnell.

Fifty percent of Catholics said they believed abortion should be legal in all or most circumstances, while 45 percent say it should be illegal in the same circumstances. That was only moderately more pro-life than the American public as a whole, which favored abortion 55-41."…

Blue excerpt from source link: lifesitenews.com/news/poll-50-percent-of-all-catholics-support-abortion-in-all-or-most-cases

Well, at least it is not 90 percent. For example, is it true that more than 90 percent of American Catholics believe that it is acceptable for a married couple to use ABC? What percentage of child bearing female American Catholics are on the pill or IUD? Is it true that there is no significant difference between the percentage of American Catholics who use contraception and the percentage of American Protestants who do the same?

 

[TK421]

hugs SwizzleStick Don’t worry, everything is going to be okay. I will pray tonight for your comfort and renewing.

It is good to be pained when you read about the acceptance of evil. How can you not be? But don’t be consumed with sadness. I’m convinced a big part of the reason we can become so easily discouraged is because as citizens, we can all-too-easily become wrapped up with the happenings of our own little country, as though it were the entire planet. Maybe the US has fallen on some hard times, but the Church is universal, and some wonderful things are happening all over the world for us to rejoice over. The enemy might succeed in burning down one bridge, but we always build another

 

[Tony_Micelli]

Were these observant Catholics or self-professed lukewarm Catholics? I don’t pay too much attention to polls like this because they usually are conducted in such a way to support an agenda.

Considering only about 30% or less of Catholics attend church every Sunday, I’m not surprised.