POLL: If Kavanaugh were proven guilty

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why the plural, I’m only aware of one claimed assault/groping.

Someone dropping their pants at a college party is childish/fratish, but it’s not assault.

What happened is relevant to his character in total, not isolation. Is there a pattern of such behavior or did it not reoccur as he became a working adult. How has he treated women the past 30 yrs in comparison?
Whether or not he is repentant is another issue to consider. If someone sexually assaulted someone 30 years ago, admitted his guilt and repented, then he might be worthy of consideration. In my opinion, someone who assaulted someone and then continues to lie about it is not worthy of consideration. Even if his outward appearance suggests he is living a perfectly moral life.
 
Since this is a poll on a fictional circumstance, what exactly is the point?
To keep the “Kavanaugh” and “guilty” on the top of everyone’s mind. To make him guilty by association.
 
Whether or not he is repentant is another issue to consider. If someone sexually assaulted someone 30 years ago, admitted his guilt and repented, then he might be worthy of consideration. In my opinion, someone who assaulted someone and then continues to lie about it is not worthy of consideration. Even if his outward appearance suggests he is living a perfectly moral life.
Wouldn’t that be between him and the confessional? Requiring public confessions for all past transgressions was more of a thing in China and Russia, at their group party meetings.

The fact that there is no subsequent pattern of behavior does indicate some degree of maturation though.
 
Wouldn’t that be between him and the confessional? Requiring public confessions for all past transgressions was more of a thing in China and Russia, at their group party meetings.
If someone is accused of sexual assault, are you saying that it is morally appropriate to lie about that? Part of Bill Clinton’s problem was not just that he had an affair in the White House, but that he lied about it. I cannot imagine a scenario where it is morally desirable to lie when one is accused of a crime.
 
Since this is a poll on a fictional circumstance, what exactly is the point?
To keep the “Kavanaugh” and “guilty” on the top of everyone’s mind. To make him guilty by association.
Asked and answered.
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The question is whether people would see sexual assault committed as a teenager as a reasonable preclusion to a lifetime appointment on SCOTUS. Apparently you don’t?
 
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Fiction.

If you were really polling to find that out, you could do so without mentioning any names.

Since you did not, I believe it correctly hypothesized that you simply want the word association as public as possible.

I think it likely the poll itself is a form of calumny.
 
The question is whether people would see sexual assault committed as a teenager as a reasonable preclusion to a lifetime appointment on SCOTUS.
No.

Merely give him a hammer so he can break big rocks into tiny gravel.

Forever.
Now, to be fair, I didn’t come up with this idea. In the thread on John Brennan I asked whether there is any hope for redemption for someone who voted for Gus Hall. This was the response I got. I cannot see someone committed sexual assault to deserve any less punishment.
 
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Asked and answered.
Fiction.

If you were really polling to find that out, you could do so without mentioning any names.

Since you did not, I believe it correctly hypothesized that you simply want the word association as public as possible.

I think it likely the poll itself is a form of calumny.
Thanks. I take your post as a form of calumny.
 
If someone is accused of sexual assault, are you saying that it is morally appropriate to lie about that? Part of Bill Clinton’s problem was not just that he had an affair in the White House, but that he lied about it. I cannot imagine a scenario where it is morally desirable to lie when one is accused of a crime.
Where did I mention lying? I simply said we didn’t need to publicly confess all our past sins.
 
I simply said we didn’t need to publicly confess all our past sins.
We also don’t need to be appointed to the Supreme Court. If he is accused of a crime, he certainly has every right to not say anything one way or another. He can plead the fifth. Whether or not that would garner him support for the confirmation is another question.
 
Apparently Claire McCaskill has given a statement about sexual misconduct allegations and public figures:

 
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No, sorry — I wouldn’t want my daughters around him.
Yeah…he had some physical evidence in his case thought. The blue dress on which the FBI concluded the semen stain was his.

It’s kind of weird isn’t it? Bill Clinton had charges that were fresh with physical evidence. But Claire McCaskill (and others) were ready to look the other way. Kavanaugh who literally has decades of service without a trace impropriety gets a 35 year old accusation without any evidence or support from the alleged witnesses and so many are ready to skewer him!
 
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We also don’t need to be appointed to the Supreme Court. If he is accused of a crime, he certainly has every right to not say anything one way or another. He can plead the fifth. Whether or not that would garner him support for the confirmation is another question.
Why do you think a teen misdemeanor, with no subsequent pattern of sexual assault disqualifies someone?
 
Why do you think a teen misdemeanor, with no subsequent pattern of sexual assault disqualifies someone?
If there is evidence of taking responsibility for his crime, then perhaps it would not disqualify him. I would not rule out, voting for someone if they committed the crime and repented. Kind of like John Brennan. Some think that he should be jailed for life for voting for Gus Hall. Others would cut him some slack.
 
It’s probably best for Kavanaugh that the public doesn’t have a vote in this. I mean this as no slight to him but I can’t fathom putting myself forward for any position related to the government at this time — not just because I’d be a horrible failure but also because our country has lost its mind. And to me, it doesn’t seem to matter if one is right, left, or independent. There’s a bloodlust sweeping the land.
 
It’s probably best for Kavanaugh that the public doesn’t have a vote in this.
Whaaaaaaaat!!! You mean people who don’t want Kavanaugh to be nominated are playing this in the court of public opinion? No waaaaaaay!!! That doesn’t happen!!! Diane Feinstein would NEVER do that!!!
 
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