Pope’s adjuration: Are you going to fast as penance? [Poll]

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There is a cover up going on, and people like you let it happen. I am not going to continue to let you try and make this look like a personal attack when all I did was make a general statement, if the shoe fits, dont try and deny it though.

Keep in mind, I am talking from personal experience. Im not a conditioned pew sitter trying to explain this thing away, but someone who has been through this and seen the cover up in my own life.

How am I different though? I didnt let it drive me away from God. I didn’t let it drive me away from the church. The fact I was lied about, spat upon, had things thrown at me, and lost my job and my reputation because of what was done to me, I did not let that destroy me, so some hurt feelings on your part wont do it either.
Tis_Bearself said:
If you are going to continue to feel unease about cases that happened decades ago, and use that as a basis to decide everything going on now must be haywire as well, then I guess that’s just how you feel. It’s not supported by any current occurrences, though.
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This happened to me personally. It was twenty years ago yes, but it has not stopped happening to others, and until it does, and until it stops, I am not financially supporting the church. Was it decades ago, yes, but that does not matter. Until the bishops own up to what happened, which is likely not going to happen before I die, than I am not changing a thing about what I am doing.

There is nothing more to say about this subject that I can see. Supporting the church with prayers will do a lot more good than giving it money anyway.
 
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godisgood77 said:
but here we are almost 20 years after the rape and abuse scandal was made public and another massive scandal of abuse of power and pedophilia breaks. Something is not working.
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Right. We have a new report. Did you look at the report? Of the 300 who had allegations of abuse only two were from the last 10 years. And both of those were handled properly.
 
Well I am glad to hear that someone got some justice. I still have not.
 
Nichole said:
This happened to me personally. It was twenty years ago yes, but it has not stopped happening to others, and until it does, and until it stops, I am not financially supporting the church. Was it decades ago, yes, but that does not matter. Until the bishops own up to what happened, which is likely not going to happen before I die, than I am not changing a thing about what I am doing.
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I am very sorry to hear that you went through this. Is the person who did this to you still in ministry? I would encourage you to bring this up again if you have been ignored up until this point in time. That definitely should not happen.
 
That’s a good idea. My son has been waking me up at 4 or 5 all this week. I need to offer it up more deliberately.
 
I’m already taking part in a 54 day novena where there’s fasting on Wednesdays and Fridays. Can I attach this intention to it or is it necessary to do a separate rosary/novena?

Thank you and God Bless.
 
RosalieM said:
I feel the same.
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It’s not about us sharing the guilt of the perpetrators, though. We pray and fast for the victims. and for the healing of all. It doesn’t matter that we weren’t responsible for it.
 
I prayed for the victims. I don’t need to fast because I don’t eat much and I can’t ‘abstain’ from meat because I’m already a vegetarian. (which our archbishop suggested). And I really don’t want to dwell on this murky evil either. It’s over. Done. We need to eliminate the ‘statute of limitations’ so criminals can be punished for their crimes against innocents and put in jail…priests or not.
 
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I don’t drink either and I’m single. I could go on a news fast…and spend more time in Adoration, as there is a nearby church that has it daily.
 
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This is not something based on opinion, but my personal experience. I know that cover ups take place. But some people cannot see the forest from the trees.
 
Not sure why you replied to me there. I was addressing the other poster.
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I replied to the wrong poster again, I’m half asleep, I apologize. Sometimes when there is a quote to another poster I get slightly confused and reply to the wrong person.
 
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Again, you realize you can choose to fast from a variety of non-food things, right? Hitting the snooze button, using an electric blanket in winter, reading non-faith related materials… The options are plentiful.
 
Right. I know most people think of fasting exclusively in terms of food, but it can be broader than that. There are all sorts of “creature comforts” that we can fast from. The primary purpose is to make a sacrifice that requires an act of the will and costs us something. Certainly we do not want to do a food fast if there are medical reasons we cannot do so.
 
To be quite fair, I think I’m just about out of those things too, at least if I want to retain my sanity.

I will have to think. I may be better at the “prayer” part.
 
It seems to me that you would like an acknowledgement of the harm that was done to you not only by the priest who raped you but by the others who threw you under the bus to protect him.

I have heard in several places that what the Church is doing is not enough, and I am wondering if, perhaps, the problem is that the Church is missing doing something.

Do you think an acknowledgement is what is missing? What sort of manner of acknowledgement do you think would help victims to heal, if this would be something that might help?
 
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