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Robert_Sock
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So how does our being involved in these unresolvable Democrat versus Republican issues translate into a good work?
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GEddie
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I’d be surprised if he said he would follow it.
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LeafByNiggle
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If climate change is true (which perhaps you think is impossible), preventing the damaging consequences would be a good work.
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Zachary
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Since “climate change” isnt a matter of faith or morals, are we free to disregard the Popes opinion on it anyway?
The Church has always taught good stewardship over all of God’s creation, including the Earth and its creatures. How has that changed? The Church cannot tell us to not buy oil or to turn off our lights during Earth Hour.
I dont get the big deal…(and havent and probably wont read the encyclical…I’ll wait for Jimmy Akins to tell me what to think hahah)
The Church has always taught good stewardship over all of God’s creation, including the Earth and its creatures. How has that changed? The Church cannot tell us to not buy oil or to turn off our lights during Earth Hour.
I dont get the big deal…(and havent and probably wont read the encyclical…I’ll wait for Jimmy Akins to tell me what to think hahah)
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estesbob
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The “list” really gets under peoples skin doesn’t it? For that reason alone it serves it purpose-shows people not only are they using the same old tired excuses but also makes them realize how shallow these excuses are.
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Robert_Sock
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My point is at the average, individual level. What can you or I do? In this case, given all the controversy, it sounds like needless stress that can drain us of our spiritual energy. (I have not a clue whether it’s real or not.)
LeafByNiggle
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Contraception is controversial too. And sometimes it looks like there is little we can do. Yet many spiritual people find their spiritual life enlivened and energized by working to oppose the culture of death.
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Micosil
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I’m not so sure. Using the car less and relying more on bicycles or public transportation every other day doesn’t have to be stressing, nor making sure all lights in the house are off when not totally needed; use fluorescent bulbs instead of incandescent ones; change your thermostat settings to something that requires less power to run while still being comfortable; replace windows with double-glazing; cut down on hot water usage if you can help it …
None of these activities seem needlessly stressing, imho
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Thorolfr
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There is one difference in that Republicans often pretend to be more moral and more religious than Democrats.
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CHESTERTONRULES
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Amen, Jeb.
Pope Francis is our leader when it comes to faith and morals.
He needs to keep away from politics and science.
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CHESTERTONRULES
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Baseless slander.There is one difference in that Republicans often pretend to be more moral and more religious than Democrats.
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CHESTERTONRULES
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There is legitimate debate on the matter. Many don’t believe that CO2 is harmful in any way. In fact, it is plant food.
Greenhouses, for example, find optimal plant growth occurs in the 1200-1500 ppm range. That’s why they buy CO2 generators.
Our current CO2 level on earth is about 400 ppm. We’ll be lucky if we even get to 500 ppm.
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qui_est_ce
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estesbob
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So adhering to the Church’s teachings on abortion , homosexuality and sex outside of marriage are pretending? Objecting to Catholic businessmen being forced to pay for abortificants for their employees is pretending?There is one difference in that Republicans often pretend to be more moral and more religious than Democrats.
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Vouthon
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So tell me again why an encyclical on responsible stewardship of creation, proper respect for the environment and on the need to protect the earth (our common home) for future generations, does not fall under ‘morals’?
Climate change and related environmental concerns, other than say fracking, is not a politicized left-right partisan issue in many other countries as it appears to be in the U.S. Why would the pope not use the scientific consensus on the dangers facing humanity vis-a-vis our abuse of the environment and fossil fuels, to elucidate these moral truths for today’s generation? This is what the church has always done.
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Micosil
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Beryllos
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I am still waiting to see what Pope Francis has to say on it, but there is little doubt that the climate is changing. Glaciers are receding and arctic sea ice has declined, and many parts of the world are getting drier. This has been happening since the most recent Ice Age, though it may be accelerating in the last century.
The main dispute seems to be whether man is responsible for this climate change, and what, if anything, we should do in order to slow down or reverse the change.
Regardless of the cause, we can and we should adapt to it. If people are having a harder time getting adequate water, or growing crops for food, what can they do about it? How can we help those who are suffering?
Would Jeb Bush object to helping those who are in need because of climate change?
The main dispute seems to be whether man is responsible for this climate change, and what, if anything, we should do in order to slow down or reverse the change.
Regardless of the cause, we can and we should adapt to it. If people are having a harder time getting adequate water, or growing crops for food, what can they do about it? How can we help those who are suffering?
Would Jeb Bush object to helping those who are in need because of climate change?
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Crossbones
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#8 is “I trust my reading of the Church’s Voting Guide over that of someone who has a demonstrated inability to interpret the Church’s teachings”?
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CHESTERTONRULES
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Arctic sea ice is down, antarctic sea ice is up.
The earth warms and cools in long cycles with or without human beings.
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CHESTERTONRULES
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Because it includes faulty conclusions and is politically inspired.
The Catechism already has spoken on good stewardship of the earth. This is unnecessary and divisive.
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