Pope Francis Must Resign: Archbishop Vigano

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Honestly, I do not know what to say. Wow.

Church defintely needs to be about prayer and fasting.
 
I read all 11 pages. Nowhere is a distinction made between homosexual activity between consenting and free adults, sex involving a misuse of power, and sex with minors. This leads me to think that the former Nuncio does not understand the difference. That is as scandalous as the things he condemns. Further, it insults the victims by telling them a falsehood about why they were abused. They were not abused because their abusers were homosexuals. They were abused because their abusers were child abusers or misusers of power. You can be heterosexual or homosexual and do those evil things. Blaming homosexuality is a calumny and harmful to Catholics and others who are homosexual.
 
You don’t pray for others unless you’re at fault?

It’s common to have prayers and fasting during a tragedy. To pray that the Church and their victims heal. All that.
 
It takes the following pope to judge if a pope before him is an anti-pope.
 
I hate that I can’t say that I am shocked by this. Saddened deeply, but not shocked.
 
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MagdalenaRita said:
Honestly, I do not know what to say. Wow.
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It is not the first time we read news and then have to readjust a whole lot of it,Magdalena Rita.
So…let us calm down.
The earth won t spin faster no matter how hard we try …
 
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Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò (Edward Pentin Photo)

| AUG. 25, 2018

Ex-Nuncio Accuses Pope Francis of Failing to Act on McCarrick’s Abuse​

In a written testimony, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò claims Pope Francis withdrew sanctions against Archbishop Theodore McCarrick.​

Edward Pentin

In an extraordinary 11-page written testament, a former apostolic nuncio to the United States has accused several senior prelates of complicity in covering up Archbishop Theodore McCarrick’s allegations of sexual abuse, and has claimed that Pope Francis knew about sanctions imposed on then-Cardinal McCarrick by Pope Benedict XVI but chose to repeal them.

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, 77, who served as apostolic nuncio in Washington D.C. from 2011 to 2016, said that in the late 2000s, Benedict had “imposed on Cardinal McCarrick sanctions similar to those now imposed on him by Pope Francis” and that Viganò personally told Pope Francis about those sanctions in 2013.

Archbishop Viganò said in his written statement, simultaneously released to the Register and other media, (see full text below) that Pope Francis “continued to cover” for McCarrick and not only did he “not take into account the sanctions that Pope Benedict had imposed on him” but also made McCarrick “his trusted counselor.” Viganò said that the former archbishop of Washington advised the Pope to appoint a number of bishops in the United States, including Cardinals Blase Cupich of Chicago and Joseph Tobin of Newark.

Archbishop Viganò, who said his “conscience dictates” that the truth be known as “the corruption has reached the very top of the Church’s hierarchy,” ended his testimony by calling on Pope Francis and all of those implicated in the cover up of Archbishop McCarrick’s abuse to resign. . .
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That this is “extraordinary” is an understatement.

As Cruciferi has said . . . No Mutiny!

Many of us here at CAF know the Catholic Faith is founded by Jesus Christ and is much larger than any one person.

NO MATTER WHO that person is.

If what Archbishop Vigano says is true, then we as catechized Catholics will have an “extraordinary” opportunity to share the faith in the face of inevitable criticism (and perhaps more persecution) of the Church that is about to follow.

Catholic Answers (Jimmy Akin, Tim Staples, Karl Keating (ret.), etc.) did a great job back in 2002 and after helping and providing guidance.

Catholic Answers will undoubtedly be providing FURTHER (name removed by moderator)ut here as this situation unfolds too.

The fact that this warning is coming from an Archbishop tells us as laity that
we must be prayerful and attentive.

Begin with ourselves.

Confession, Adoration/Supplication and offer your Mass tomorrow AM at least in part for the Church. That is my take anyway.

I and others here will be following this exceedingly closely.

Thank you TigerLily-1 for posting this heartbreaking but necessary story.

God bless.

Cathoholic
 
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FiveLinden said:
I read all 11 pages. Nowhere is a distinction made between homosexual activity between consenting and free adults, sex involving a misuse of power, and sex with minors. This leads me to think that the former Nuncio does not understand the difference. That is as scandalous as the things he condemns. Further, it insults the victims by telling them a falsehood about why they were abused. They were not abused because their abusers were homosexuals. They were abused because their abusers were child abusers or misusers of power. You can be heterosexual or homosexual and do those evil things. Blaming homosexuality is a calumny and harmful to Catholics and others who are homosexual.
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Only two of McCarrick’s known victims were children. Dozens (or more) were young adults over 18. How could the latter cases possibly be a child abuse problem?
 
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graciew said:
…let us calm down.
The earth won t spin faster no matter how hard we try …
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Okay, didn’t realize I was sounding that upset with my little “wow”. I am stunned but not surprised.
 
Now is time to pray and seek the path of God. It may very well be Pope Francis is innocent although I’m not very hopeful at this point honestly. You all are right. Throughout history we have had some very bad popes. Something more to ponder and pray about
 
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Two sounds like a lot to me.
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So you’re saying that McCarrick was a pedophile who just happened to sexually assault adult men as a “side thing”?

(Please note that I am not minimizing child abuse – far from it! I am saying that there is a serious problem with McCarrick’s relations to adults. That’s not “because he’s gay”. It’s because he was a selfish jerk.)
 
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So you’re saying that McCarrick was a pedophile who just happened to sexually assault adult men as a “side thing”?
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No I am saying what I have said? What is it with CAF that people want to put words in my mouth?
 
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They were not abused because their abusers were homosexuals. They were abused because their abusers were child abusers or misusers of power.
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OK, reading back, I missed the phrase “or abusers of power” in your original post. My bad. I think we still disagree, but we do agree about this not being MERELY a matter of the homosexuality of the prelate.
 
I don’t know if Pope Francis did this or not. I suspect that if he did, he believed he had good reason to do so. In any case, this would be a terrible time for him to resign. No one in the College of Cardinals would be above suspicion, and things would only get much worse.
 
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