Pope suggests Trump: not Christian

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George Washington is called father of our country, and Lincoln can be safely called father of our nation for winning the civil war and restoring unity.
George Washington, the father of our country. Wow. I mean, I know that is true, it is so true.

Maybe some are unsettled with governors being likened to Fathers (or Mothers in some states) but I can relate to them acting in a Parental manner.
 
George Washington is called father of our country, and Lincoln can be safely called father of our nation for winning the civil war and restoring unity.
I must post this, this is a similar analogy I just saw:
Donald Trump has won the backing of a legendary New York Republican — who also blasted his own state party’s failure to rally behind the candidacy of its “favorite son’’ presidential hopeful.
nypost.com/2016/02/08/ex-state-gop-big-rips-party-for-not-backing-donald-trump/
“Favorite Son”, that is often used as well per Presidential candidates.
 
Looking back I think was harsh to criticize the Pope’s words. Looking back the metaphor is correct and I do want a President who builds bridges not walls. Don’t get me wrong I think we need strong border security. But I am deeply concerned about how divided our country is.
 
Looking back I think was harsh to criticize the Pope’s words. Looking back the metaphor is correct and I do want a President who builds bridges not walls. Don’t get me wrong I think we need strong border security. But I am deeply concerned about how divided our country is.
Sometimes literature helps to think about these issues. I wrote Unto Others: A Mystery several years ago about an illegal immigrant from El Salvador who works in the US. Her priest is kidnapped and the following plot unfolds to show the humanity of this individual among other things. If you like mysteries, you can read this FREE BOOK online and/or download at this link:

womanatwell.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_3.html .

I pray for God’s will in these matters.
:gopray:
 
catholicnewsagency.com/news/archbishop-gomez-the-popes-focus-is-human-suffering-not-donald-trump-62799/

👍. This is my Archdioceses (not trying to to sound like I am signaling out my/LA Archdioceses, rather making a statement). {I will also be receiving Confirmation here this April}
This is my Archdiocese too, and may God bless you as you prepare for Confirmation!

Archbishop Gomez has long made immigration a focus of his ministry, and may God continue to bless him too. His book, “Immigration and the Next America” is worth a read.

Trump is exploiting anger and fear over immigration by turning immigrants into scapegoats or boogeymen, to try to get elected. Our Holy Father is thinking of real people, regardless of citizenship, who are suffering and need our help, not “us versus them”. The Gospel always challenges us to look beyond our own comfort and sense of security, to care for our fellow humans in need.
 
Okay, I believe in being like the Vicar of Christ on earth and Jesus Christ, and to respect other people, their opinions and so on. Thank you.

Not denigrate, using “weird” and talking about “Rod Serling” in a conversation.
You think this adjective “weird” is denigrating? That’s…odd? Unique? Singular?

Are we talking about the same Pope? The one who just used the phrase “not Christian” and talked about the idolatry of traditionalism?

Is “ironic” acceptable, as in “This post ironically supports political correctness”?

Using the Golden Rule, do we address those here that are undocumented with the same concern for cautious language, or do we use the adjective “illegals” as a noun do denigrate a whole group of people?
 
Not to be facetious, so please help me out… would one say that living in a gated community is also not Christian-like either? If you think about it, gated communities welcome all who commit to abide by the rules of the CCNRs? I guess I think of “the wall” somewhat in the same fashion…immigrants are welcome, but they need to come into the USA the proper way. Am I way out of line here?
 
We will probably get past this when he, Trump. says the next outlandish thing. It’s only a matter of time. Who could have predicted this?
Not quite what I meant.
In the last few days I have read things on this forum and on Facebook, from Catholics that have been the most disrespectful things I have read about our pastor, Pope Francis. Words have meaning, they hurt and they cause damage. Damage in our relation to God and each other. It’s not a matter of forgiveness, its a matter repairing what has been damaged. There are certain lines one does not cross. When you cross them, you deal with the consequences, no matter how sorry you are for having crossed it.
My thought is, that we cannot simply ‘put it behind us’, we have to face what brought us to this point to begin with.
And until that happens, relationships cannot simply go back to where it was before.
 
If thirty years of Catholics supporting the abortion-on-demand policies of Democrats have not damaged our relationship with God, nothing can.
 
Sometimes literature helps to think about these issues. I wrote Unto Others: A Mystery several years ago about an illegal immigrant from El Salvador who works in the US. Her priest is kidnapped and the following plot unfolds to show the humanity of this individual among other things. If you like mysteries, you can read this FREE BOOK online and/or download at this link:

womanatwell.blogspot.com/p/blog-page_3.html .

I pray for God’s will in these matters.
:gopray:
I was never against the idea of mercy for the immigrants. I just wasn’t sure about criticism of the wall. And I still think we need one, to stem the illegal flow while making it easier for people to come legally. (taking into account yes the issues in our hemisphere and the desperation many people have.) I.e refugees.
 
I was never against the idea of mercy for the immigrants. I just wasn’t sure about criticism of the wall. And I still think we need one, to stem the illegal flow while making it easier for people to come legally.
Justice and Mercy, the perennial dichotomy that will have theologians and philosophers go on and on and on.
 
cnn.com/2016/02/18/politics/pope-francis-trump-christian-wall/index.html

“A person who thinks only about building walls, wherever they may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian. This is not in the gospel,”
Perhaps many have pointed this out already, but I think the key here is the word “only”. Walls can be OK but you should also work to solve the problem that is causing the need for walls. A Christian should be concerned with loving other people.
 
At least that got cleared up, the Holy Father was not referring to Trump personally.
 
Not quite what I meant.
In the last few days I have read things on this forum and on Facebook, from Catholics that have been the most disrespectful things I have read about our pastor, Pope Francis. Words have meaning, they hurt and they cause damage. Damage in our relation to God and each other. It’s not a matter of forgiveness, its a matter repairing what has been damaged. There are certain lines one does not cross. When you cross them, you deal with the consequences, no matter how sorry you are for having crossed it.
My thought is, that we cannot simply ‘put it behind us’, we have to face what brought us to this point to begin with.
And until that happens, relationships cannot simply go back to where it was before.
Thank you for clarifying your point. I have to agree with you. I 'm deeply disappointed with many Catholic’s lack of respect for the Holy Father.
 
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