Obviously he is not going to name names - that would be a terrible thing to do. To be singled out for criticism by the Pope would be devastating to any clergy member, the Pope would never be so unkind.
The same Archbishop Chaput that Pope Francis praised for “his commitment, his piety, his enthusiasm, and his great love for the family” just last September? The same Cardinal Pell that was put in charge of an important Vatican entity after a financial scandal by Pope Francis, and who was just confirmed in his position even after the age of 75 for at least 3 more years? The Cardinal Sarah that Pope Francis appointed as head of the Congregation for Divine Worship? I’m also unfamiliar with the Pope saying anything but positive comments for Cardinal Burke.
You talk as if the Pope is against conservatives or specifically against any of these people. He is merely talking about differences in opinion.
Good to hear, he has impacted my behavior as well and I have been in the Church since birth.
I think you make a good point. The concerns people have with this idea of “mercy over rules” is that anything thought to the “merciful way” will become more important than 2000 year old Church rules and will replace Church teachings. The rules are there to prevent this type of thing from happening. The rules keep us true to our Catholic faith, without them we will go in the direction of the Protestant churches. I believe the ones who are called ‘ultra-conservative’ are doing their best to uphold and prevent the Church from going in the Protestant direction. The Catholic Church is more strict and the rules are more difficult to follow than Protestant churches, but that is the Church we believe is the true Church.
Actually it was you who brought it up. I am specifically saying he is NOT against any of these people.
The Pope called for discernment. That’s what Archbishop Chaput did for his particular archdiocese.
OK then, the Pope is talking about some completely unknown ultra-conservatives. Not these people at all.
Archbishop Chaput has been very specific about issues such as communion for those who are divorced - no room for discernment there (quite unlike the advise the Pope gave to Jaquelina Lisbona for instance)The Pope called for discernment. That’s what Archbishop Chaput did for his particular archdiocese.
Maybe they are known, but it is not our place to speculate who he is talking about…especially when it is concerning people who he has praised, and even more when it is someone (Chaput) who he praised specifically in the context of the family.
That’s a very unnuanced view of the situation. The rules for divorced/remarried haven’t changed a bit. The Pope specifically said there were no canonical changes in Amoris Laetitia. What has deepened w/AL is the theology about mitigating factors, etc., which is supposed to be addressed on an individual basis. Perhaps Chaput could’ve explicitly talked about that, but he didn’t and I fail to see why how him not doing so puts him at odds with Pope Francis.
I don’t think its helpful to make pronouncements like this.
What do you mean when you say Amoris Laetitia has deepened is the theology about mitigating factors that are to be addressed on an individual basis regarding the divorced/remarried? Would this not change the rules for them in some way? This has been discussed on this forum and no one seems to agree on what any of it really means. Maybe you could explain it from your understanding of it.Maybe they are known, but it is not our place to speculate who he is talking about…especially when it is concerning people who he has praised, and even more when it is someone (Chaput) who he praised specifically in the context of the family.
And you’ve gone from “pushback” to “merely differences of opinion” to sarcasm. What’s with that?
That’s a very unnuanced view of the situation. The rules for divorced/remarried haven’t changed a bit. The Pope specifically said there were no canonical changes in Amoris Laetitia. What has deepened w/AL is the theology about mitigating factors, etc., which is supposed to be addressed on an individual basis. Perhaps Chaput could’ve explicitly talked about that, but he didn’t and I fail to see why how him not doing so puts him at odds with Pope Francis.
Pope Francis is God’s choice and the next stage in developing our traditionI don’t think its helpful to make pronouncements like this.
Who are we to judge that former popes were LESS Christ-like than pope Francis?
Fixed your post.
Are you known for editing true opinion of other people?Fixed your post.
Possibly not and I would accept that in a comment but finding startlingly rude to be edited. But perhaps I’ve misunderstood. Nevertheless I wouldn’t do it
Well then if you find the practice “startlingly rude” I apologise and ask your forgiveness.
Same here. I think I must have the ego the same size as a small planet. I often misunderstanding these forums. It’s so much clearer when we are talking rather than writing. It is I who should say sorry. God knows what I was thinking I do hope you can forget I wrote it