Portland parish protests new priest’s policies

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Portland is as wicked as any typical Democrat blue west coast city gets. There are many who will try and change the Church to be Worldly like they are. The great St. Thomas Aquinas wrote: “To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.” My guess is many don’t understand which side of the ‘explanation’ they are on.
 
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HomeschoolDad said:
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Are these parishioners really from the same planet as me? I had to double-check that this wasn’t satire, because the part about singing a civil rights song to protest a black priest was just rich.
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I’m perfectly good with the “immigrants and refugees welcome” sign — why did he take it down? — but as for everything else, I’m right on the page with him. May God bless him.
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Because that’s NOT what it means. Of COURSE legitimate immigrants and refugees are welcome in the Catholic church. It’s been that way for 2000 years.

The purpose of that sign is not state the obvious. It was to provoke & push a political ideology and to imply that Catholics (and others) who do not support illegal immigration and do not support the “so called” refugees who cross the border illegally are bad people.

It’s polarizing and wrong.
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MiserereMeiDei said:
How often are we talking about? I realize it gets a lot of press, but even as bad as it is it’s statistically negligible.
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More often than not, in my experience. But that is just my experience. It may be related to where I live.
 
PetraG said:
Considering that vestments that ought to be disposed of by burning wound up in a dumpster, it is entirely possible that the clean-up was done by a parishioner rather than the priest and that there was some miscommunication about what (for instance) it meant to “get rid of” something.
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And that’s exactly what the priest says happened. He did not want anyone to throw them in the trash.
 
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I am what most people would consider a pretty progressive person. I have been to Portland, and I feel very comfortable there. However, I would never do something like this. I don’t believe it has anything to do with being Progressive, it just has to do with being rude and disrespectful. I am really sorry that it happened. It shouldn’t have.
 
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Hopefully the archbishop supports the new priest and isn’t leaving him to fend for himself. The priest from Nigeria shouldn’t be fighting this battle alone but should have the support of the Archdiocese, I would think.
 
It’s a very sad situation. First of all, that parish is probably one of the most “liberal” in the archdiocese. I’m sure that Archbishop Sample wanted to bring the parish in line with proper liturgical practices. The Archbishop in fact, issued a new Archdiocesan Liturgical Handbook within the last year. That parish is used to doing their own thing, so of course they are screaming because they don’t like it. The second issue is that the parish had a very large and active ministry to the homeless which had gotten out of hand. There were very many complaints from neighbors because of increased crime and vagrancy in the vicinity of the church and the neighborhood. Because of all the problems, Catholic Charities is taking over this mission, but it will still be located at the church. Third, there are some very solid parishes in this Archdiocese.
 
HomeschoolDad said:
Does this imply that other hardware stores are not helpful? I don’t think so. No, it just says Ace Hardware is helpful. No harm, no foul.
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Ace Hardware IS implying that their employees are more helpful than the employees at that other hardware store. When you think to yourself “I need help with this” they want you to automatically think of Ace Hardware. That’s the whole point of the marketing campaign. It’s literally the reason why they spend millions of dollars on that marketing.

Anyway, we are off topic, so it’s probably best to end this exchange.
 
Advice for those leaving either Portland or Seattle: Do not stop and look back - unless you want to become a pillar of salt.
 
Pushy Presumptuous Politically Progressive Portland Parishioners Propose Prohibiting Priest’s Proven Pastoral Policies
 
In addition to what phil said, it’s also virtue signaling. The Catholic Church should not be doing that, and should make itself known through its actions, not through banners.
 
Blogger Rod Dreher took note of this event recently in a post HERE. One of the updates at the bottom of the post made this comment:

UPDATE: Let me add a more sympathetic coda. As a thought experiment, p:ut yourself in the shoes of these people who have been living out this bizarre leftist semi-Catholicism for decades. As distorted as it is, this is what they’ve known. And now it’s been taken away from them. I’m not going to go full relativist here; they needed to have this taken away from them, because it’s not Catholicism, and the people of that parish deserve to have the Catholic faith.

A reader commented: “I once lived 3 blocks from this church about a decade ago. Admittedly I only attended Mass once. The parish was viscerally not a good fit for me. The picture drawn by the secular paper is somewhat accurate: a tiny parish filled entirely with aging flower children nearing the end of their life’s journey. The “liturgy” was almost unrecognizable and the heresy flowed like water. They were, however, friendly and welcoming folk.” . . . .
“On the one hand, this group of whacky liberals has been allowed to run, essentially, a rogue pirate ship under the banner of Catholicism for eons. It was unfathomable to many that it went on for so long. I don’t know how much of that was the sympathies of liberal forces within the diocese, or just a distaste for causing a scene like what you read about here.”
 
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“On the one hand, this group of whacky liberals has been allowed to run, essentially, a rogue pirate ship under the banner of Catholicism for eons. It was unfathomable to many that it went on for so long. I don’t know how much of that was the sympathies of liberal forces within the diocese, or just a distaste for causing a scene like what you read about here.”
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Pure speculation here…did previous bishops allow this parish to function as it did so it would draw sympathetic parishioners out of other parishes? In other words, let the “60s hippies” have their own personal parish?
 
I don’t think Rod should have associated this with Sister Helen Prejean. As lefty as she no doubt is, I can’t imagine her disrupting a Mass with a protest march.

As for “this is what they’ve known, and now it’s been taken away from them,” I sincerely doubt that every one of those aging boomers spent their entire practicing-Catholic lives in progressive parishes. More likely they gravitated there from normal average parishes because they liked the progressive place better. Rod makes it sound like lefty Catholics wrecking the Mass are the norm. They simply aren’t, at least for about the last 40 years now.
 
Pushy Presumptuous Politically Progressive Portland Parishioners Propose Prohibiting polite Persecuted Priest’s Proven Pastoral Policies
 
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