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inJESUS
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anyway, i hope Abdul Rahman won’t be killed…i will pray that God gives him power through his crisis…
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Shadowcry
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Yeah you don’t think you fabricate things, or maybe you think too hard.
I believe you should go with the simplest expination that comes to your head.
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inJESUS
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you see what i mean Shadowycry? maybe he will pray for him to be released from his blindness and go back to islam? maybe yes maybe no. When i asked him if he condemns it, he said : i will pray for him…that is truly an evasive answer.
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inJESUS
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the first explanation could be linked to his post when he linked praying for Abdel Rahman with praying to other “Christians” for their blindness…i know i might be streching too far on such a sentence, but my idea is that his answer is not straghforward…it is a yes/no question. If he indeed condemned, let me know cuz i might have missed some posts.
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ashok
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Namaste!
But u need 2 be honest & see what jewish/christian scriptures says 1st.
Leviticus 24:16
16 whoever blasphemes the name of the LORD shall be put to death. The whole community shall stone him; alien and native alike must be put to death for blaspheming the LORD’S name.
usccb.org/nab/bible/leviticus/leviticus24.htm#v16
15 [32] The Jewish punishment for blasphemy was stoning (Lev 24:16). In coming to the Romans to ensure that Jesus would be crucified, the Jewish authorities fulfilled his prophecy that he would be exalted (John 3:14; 12:32-33). There is some historical evidence, however, for Jews crucifying Jews.
usccb.org/nab/bible/john/john18.htm
do u people know what happened to David Koresh and his followers (among them were innocent children)?
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inJESUS
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Do Christians and Jews kill apostates? if not, there must be a reason. Bringing the OT all the time is an old technique…try the NEW Testament.
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ashok
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Namaste injesus,
it is old Testament that gave birth to new testament.
i don’t see any good reason why Tora’s law should be rejected by the folowers of jewsih Christ b’cause if he is one of da 3 godheads, & doesn’t change his words.
i am told by some learned “christan” that jewish Christ job was to renew the Tora then, where and how he discard his own words?
ur understanding is clearly an abomination and burden on jewish Christ b’cause u r not folowing him but someone else.
thats why i think my (Hinduism) trinity is superior than “christian” trinity b’cause u made ur godhead so cheap, acursed & limited to only 3 forms.
my trinty is unlimited, infinite.
it is old Testament that gave birth to new testament.
i don’t see any good reason why Tora’s law should be rejected by the folowers of jewsih Christ b’cause if he is one of da 3 godheads, & doesn’t change his words.
i am told by some learned “christan” that jewish Christ job was to renew the Tora then, where and how he discard his own words?
ur understanding is clearly an abomination and burden on jewish Christ b’cause u r not folowing him but someone else.
thats why i think my (Hinduism) trinity is superior than “christian” trinity b’cause u made ur godhead so cheap, acursed & limited to only 3 forms.
my trinty is unlimited, infinite.
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Myangel
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Shadowcry he did go with the simplest explanation, hence this:
If you were able to respond with a simple answer, why cant Pro? I understand exactly where InJesus is coming from, praying for one does not mean you condone/condem an action.
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melbourne_guy
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Just what i expected, a person is getting killed for converting in an islamic country and people are ranting on about the old testament. I dont want to destroy islam but i do want to destroy every islamic government in this world, every government should be secular. I hope america invades pakistan and iran and every other muslim run country and replaces there oppresive governments with a democracy.
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JSmitty2005
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#1 - Islam needs to be destroyed (not merely their governments). #2 - Secular governments are evil. There should be no separation of Church and state. #3 - Democratic republics can work, but aristocracies are better and Catholic monarchies are best!
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cleobanzj
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Wake up! The government will execute him. But the shariah, which is the juridical arm of the Quran gave the orders for him to be executed.
Stop hiding from this idea that Islam is peaceful!. Islam only brings peace to those who believed in its teachings. At this time, this is even questionable, what with Iraq and the fight between Shia and Sunni.
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SemperJase
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What church attacked David Koresh?
That would be none. The government confronted Koresh because he broke the law. The moral of the story is that when police come to your door, it is wise not to kill them. There is a good chance they will kill you back.
Had Koresh and his ilk all claimed they accepted Christianity but still not dropped their weapons, they would have met the same sad end.
Please share with us when Koresh was told to convert or be killed.
Contrary to the Koresh events, muslims are proudly admitting that Mr. Ramah will be executed precisely because of his religious beliefs. But you continue to ignore the true crime while criticizing Christians. Apparently you don’t know what evil really is. Interesting.
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cestusdei
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Let me see. I post an article about a poor Christian convert who is going to be beheaded. What does pro do? Organize a protest to save the guy, condemn the human rights violation, accept that maybe Islam has some flaws? NO, he condemns me for bringing it up. I guess it’s bashing Islam to hope that Abdul isn’t butchered. Then he and his buddies attempt to change the subject and talk about persecution back in the freeking BYZANTINE EMPIRE. Uh, it doesn’t exist anymore. The Muslims destroyed it centuries ago.What I posted is happening RIGHT NOW. If you can’t condemn it then something is wrong. I guess killing Christian converts and Israeli teens eating pizza is just peachy. This confirms my view of pro as an infiltrator. He reacts just like a Muslim to such a horrendous act. A real Christian would be worried about his brother in Christ. Not about offending the sensibilities of the ones murdering him.
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jimmy
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Read the link posted above by inJesus. It is a muslim site that says that killing apostates is the muslim law. It is not going against islam, it is islam. Muslims are so deceptive, they claim their religion is the religion of peace and that those who kill apostates are going against the religion but the religion says that apostates are to be killed by the caliph.
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Muslim
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well Afghanistan is run by US… i am sure they will intervene… isnt that why we are there in the first place? i bet its more than just him converting. he probably did something to [REMOVED OBSCENITY] everyone off… there are two sides to every story.
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jimmy
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You mention Christians killing apostates but you do not mention the difference. It is Islamic law that apostates be killed by the caliph, it is not Christian law that apostates be killed and it never has been. You may be able to point back to the 4th century and find that a few apostates may have died but you will never find it made a Christian law. Islam is the most violent religion on the planet.
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SemperJase
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Ah, the old shell game. So you would have us believe that the execution of this Christian is not because of muslim teaching but is really the fault of the U.S., but he deserves to be executed anyway.
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Muslim
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wait… how do you connect the saying “US can intervene” with its the “fault of the US”… i am confused…
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JimG
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Why the quoting of Leviticus? Christians do no live by Levitical law, nor seek to impose it on anyone.
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exoflare
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You see, when Muslims don’t have a response to objective criticism of their religion they start to compulsively quote random passages from the Old Testament. It’s an interesting phenomenon… Look around at other threads on this subforum and you’ll see what I mean.
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