Question on Islam -- round 4

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Just out of curiosity, how did reading the Bible strengthen your faith in Islam?
Actually, I have in the past started a few threads dedicated to this matter of the Bible and various other scriptures affirming the Truth of Islam.

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I would say that through learning and understanding the scriptures, Muslims will tend to have more faith in the truth of the scriptures of other faiths than the actual followers of those faiths.
 
Actually, I have in the past started a few threads dedicated to this matter of the Bible and various other scriptures affirming the Truth of Islam.

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I would say that through learning and understanding the scriptures, Muslims will tend to have more faith in the truth of the scriptures of other faiths than the actual followers of those faiths.
I stopped reading after the 1st link - Muhammed was not a perfect example of anything other than how to be a power, hungry warlord.

The usual stuff from the Bible that the Muslims are trying to twist to say that was foretelling Muhammed is mostly misinterpretations. It is a desperate attempt at trying to prove they’re being ‘Abrahamic’.
 
Hi Pam! Yes, it is in the Quran: 1:6-7

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Thanks. I’m looking for the English translation that specifically mentioned the Jews and Christians instead of just saying those who have earned your wrath and those who have gone astray do you happen to know which translation it is?
 
Thanks. I’m looking for the English translation that specifically mentioned the Jews and Christians instead of just saying those who have earned your wrath and those who have gone astray do you happen to know which translation it is?
Hi Aydan… a little more info please. There are so many that refer to Jews & Christians…

Thanks!
Pam
 
I would still like a definitive answer: Do Muslims believe in the Passion of Jesus - the events leading up to the Crucifixion? Do they believe in the Scourging, Crowning with Thorns, Carrying the Cross etc.?

Thank you. 🙂
 
I would still like a definitive answer: Do Muslims believe in the Passion of Jesus - the events leading up to the Crucifixion? Do they believe in the Scourging, Crowning with Thorns, Carrying the Cross etc.?

Thank you. 🙂
Good evening Jay… I’m not answering for them, but these items that you mention are in their koran.

I hope our muslim members will answer you!

Best regards,
Pam
 
Hi Aydan… a little more info please. There are so many that refer to Jews & Christians…

Thanks!
Pam
okay can somebody just tell me if there’s a web site where I can compare all of the English translations of the Koran?
 
okay can somebody just tell me if there’s a web site where I can compare all of the English translations of the Koran?
I’m not certain where your frustration comes from since I could not assist you in with your inquiry, but the islamic site I use is:


It’s in English as well as a few other languages including arabic

It has the entire koran by the authorized islamic sources
It has the entire hadith by the authorized islamic sources
It has a search criteria by many means.
 
Aydan, you benefitted by reading the Quran. Your faith became stronger on Jesus by reading the Quran. That is very good. That is what we want. We want that you be a good Catholic. Your faith should be stronger and stronger. We want that your faith in Jesus teaching should be stronger. So please keep on reading Quran and seek guidance from Your God.
well reading the Koran convinced me to be Christian so I’m not sure you will think it’s a positive thing now. I always seek guidance from God.
 
Good evening Jay… I’m not answering for them, but these items that you mention are in their koran.

I hope our muslim members will answer you!

Best regards,
Pam
Are they really? I will have to see if I can find them. I’ll try to use the ‘search the Quran’ site - maybe I’ll come up with something. Thanks. 🙂
 
Are they really? I will have to see if I can find them. I’ll try to use the ‘search the Quran’ site - maybe I’ll come up with something. Thanks. 🙂
Any reference to Jesus are in these sura’s - Pickthal -English - No words with the word “Christ”

Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #87)

Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)

Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #253)

Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)

Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #52)

Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #55)

Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #59)

Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #84)

An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #157)

An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #163)

An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)

Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #46)

Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #78)

Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #110)

Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #112)

Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #116)

Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #85)

Maryam, Chapter #19, Verse #34)

Al-Ahzab, Chapter #33, Verse #7)

Ash-Shura, Chapter #42, Verse #13)

Az-Zukhruf, Chapter #43, Verse #63)

Al-Hadid, Chapter #57, Verse #27)

As-Saff, Chapter #61, Verse #6)

As-Saff, Chapter #61, Verse #14)

Jay… good luck with your search! Let me/us know if you find anything.

Best regards,
Pam
 
Thanks it wasn’t frustration I was just trying to reconcile the translation I saw in the presentation I posted earlier in the thread. It was a presentation teaching new Muslims how to pray and it made a point of clarifying those people who had incurred the wrath of Allah as Jews and those who had gone astray as Christians I thought it would actually appear that way in the Koran so I was wondering which translation it was. but after checking all of the English translations from the web site you gave me I found out that it does not appear that way in any of the approved English translations of the Koran. I suppose that the author of the video must have added those words in to the verses for clarification purposes. I was confused when planten confirmed that those verses were in fact referring to Jews and Christians so I mistakenly believed that it appeared in the Koran exactly as it appeared in the video and I thought I would find it in one of the English translations but after reading the five approved English translations I know now that is not the case. Thanks for the great web site by the way it makes it easy to verify things.
I’m not certain where your frustration comes from since I could not assist you in with your inquiry, but the islamic site I use is:

searchtruth.com

It’s in English as well as a few other languages including arabic

It has the entire koran by the authorized islamic sources
It has the entire hadith by the authorized islamic sources
It has a search criteria by many means.
 
Any reference to Jesus are in these sura’s - Pickthal -English - No words with the word “Christ”

Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #87)

Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #136)

Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #253)

Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #45)

Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #52)

Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #55)

Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #59)

Aal-e-Imran, Chapter #3, Verse #84)

An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #157)

An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #163)

An-Nisa, Chapter #4, Verse #171)

Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #46)

Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #78)

Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #110)

Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #112)

Al-Maeda, Chapter #5, Verse #116)

Al-Anaam, Chapter #6, Verse #85)

Maryam, Chapter #19, Verse #34)

Al-Ahzab, Chapter #33, Verse #7)

Ash-Shura, Chapter #42, Verse #13)

Az-Zukhruf, Chapter #43, Verse #63)

Al-Hadid, Chapter #57, Verse #27)

As-Saff, Chapter #61, Verse #6)

As-Saff, Chapter #61, Verse #14)

Jay… good luck with your search! Let me/us know if you find anything.

Best regards,
Pam
Pam, Thanks for the info. I haven’t found anything yet - I checked a couple of your verses and nothing. All of the sites I have found only discuss the actual crucifixion and the speculation of Muslims as to what they think happened. Nothing about the events leading up to it. Hopefully some of our Muslim posters will chime in with what they believe. I really am curious about this. I wonder why there is no information about it anywhere. 🤷
 
Pam, Thanks for the info. I haven’t found anything yet - I checked a couple of your verses and nothing. All of the sites I have found only discuss the actual crucifixion and the speculation of Muslims as to what they think happened. Nothing about the events leading up to it. Hopefully some of our Muslim posters will chime in with what they believe. I really am curious about this. I wonder why there is no information about it anywhere. 🤷
Jay when I asked planten whether Muslims believe that Jesus was beaten and whipped he said that he believed that it probably happened Planten Can you please give us more information about what the Koran says happened Jesus before Allah brought him back to heaven?
 
Pam, Thanks for the info. I haven’t found anything yet - I checked a couple of your verses and nothing. All of the sites I have found only discuss the actual crucifixion and the speculation of Muslims as to what they think happened. Nothing about the events leading up to it. Hopefully some of our Muslim posters will chime in with what they believe. I really am curious about this. I wonder why there is no information about it anywhere. 🤷
I found this debate between between the Muslim perspective and the Christian perspective on the crucifixion of Jesus. Jay I do not know if they will answer your question or not because I don’t have time to watch them right now since I need to study for finals but from what I heard so far it seems like the videos would answer your question. Unfortunately these videos were the only thing I was able to find because I ran into the same problem you did. I hope this information will be helpful to you.

au.truveo.com/Crucifixion-or-Crucifiction-1-of-7-/id/2243276052
 
** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

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I found this debate between between the Muslim perspective and the Christian perspective on the crucifixion of Jesus.
The important matter is Jesus (pbuh) did not die for our sins . A human being’s death can not free others from their sins . We all will be responsible for our own deeds.

It is not important if his enemies could beat him or not . God wont ask us about this on the final day. So , it’s a wastage of time of Muslims to think tooo much about if Jesus (pbuh) was tortured or not. It’s enough to know that God saved him , will send him back etc .

links for Quran search : In some sites , u have to write Isa (as ) instead of Jesus ( as ).

searchtruth.com/list.php

English (Yusuf Ali, Shakir, Pickthal, Mohsin Khan), French, Spanish, Indonesian, Melayu, German, Russian, Turkish, Bosnian, Dutch, Italian, Portuguese, Farsi, Urdu

islamicity.com/mosque/quran/

Comprehensive Quran Search: Search in multiple languages (English Yusuf Ali, English Picktall, English Mohammad Asad, Turkish , Malay, French, Spanish, German) Topic Search, Phonetic Search, Chapter Search, Topic Index.
 
well reading the Koran convinced me to be Christian so I’m not sure you will think it’s a positive thing now. I always seek guidance from God.
Aydan, suit yourself. We want that you be a good christian with stronger faith in Jesus. If that is achived (as you said) by reading Quran then you should read Quran. Suit yourself. There is no compulsion in any religion.
 
yes many of us are aware of what the Koran says about the death of Jesus as you know Christians do not agree with it however the question we are asking is this do Muslims believe that Jesus was beaten whipped and forced to wear a crown of thorns or not?
** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

http://theislampath.com/smf/Smileys/default/salam.gif

The important matter is Jesus (pbuh) did not die for our sins . A human being’s death can not free others from their sins . We all will be responsible for our own deeds.

It is not important if his enemies could beat him or not . God wont ask us about this on the final day. So , it’s a wastage of time of Muslims to think tooo much about if Jesus (pbuh) was tortured or not. It’s enough to know that God saved him , will send him back etc .

links for Quran search : In some sites , u have to write Isa (as ) instead of Jesus ( as ).

searchtruth.com/list.php

English (Yusuf Ali, Shakir, Pickthal, Mohsin Khan), French, Spanish, Indonesian, Melayu, German, Russian, Turkish, Bosnian, Dutch, Italian, Portuguese, Farsi, Urdu

islamicity.com/mosque/quran/

Comprehensive Quran Search: Search in multiple languages (English Yusuf Ali, English Picktall, English Mohammad Asad, Turkish , Malay, French, Spanish, German) Topic Search, Phonetic Search, Chapter Search, Topic Index.
 
Aydan, suit yourself. We want that you be a good christian with stronger faith in Jesus. If that is achived (as you said) by reading Quran then you should read Quran. Suit yourself. There is no compulsion in any religion.
I really wish everyone would believe that there’s no compulsion in religion but sadly in Turkey so many Christians live in fear because Christians are killed in the name of Allah and Islam and it happens quite frequently. It makes me really sad because I love Turkey and its people because the majority of Turks are good loving people.
 
I really wish everyone would believe that there’s no compulsion in religion but sadly in Turkey so many Christians live in fear because Christians are killed in the name of Allah and Islam and it happens quite frequently. It makes me really sad because I love Turkey and its people because the majority of Turks are good loving people.
If christians are being killed in Turkey for their faith then it is bad. That is being done in some other muslim countries too. Nobody can stop such evil deeds.
 
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