Racism, Neo-Nazism, and Catholic Teaching

[Alex337]

Alex337:

I think this sums up my thoughts rather well on the idea that neo-Marxism is destroying “the West”; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyaftqCORT4

Also; what people, do they have advantages over black people in our society?

Educated people don’t allow themselves to use words like “trash” to refer to persons of color, but I cannot remember anyone losing their jobs for using the terms “tler trash" or "we trash.” I could probably have typed those terms directly, without getting flagged. Other terms like hillybys, crars,

In other words, if you’re white, it is more likely that you’re going to be blamed because you haven’t figured out how to get in on the privileges. Not everyone does that, but it is a stereotype that is still more or less tolerated.

Would your workplace really allow harassment? You should speak with your union rep and/or HR department because I know for a fact my workplace wouldn’t let that slide. Nor would my partner’s.

 

[abucs]

So, is that a “yes” or a “no” on whether you think white people have no advantages over black people in our society?

Answer is posted above.

 

[Alex337]

Alex337:

So, is that a “yes” or a “no” on whether you think white people have no advantages over black people in our society?

Answer is posted above.

Long ramble that seems to side step the question. Please summarise; yes there are advantages or no there are not?

 

[abucs]

Long ramble that seems to side step the question. Please summarise; yes there are advantages or no there are not?

umm a two paragraph explanation taking the example of income is not long ramble. If you look moderately at the text you will find the answer explicitly stated at least twice.

 

[PetraG]

Would your workplace really allow harassment? You should speak with your union rep and/or HR department because I know for a fact my workplace wouldn’t let that slide. Nor would my partner’s.

I substitute teach at the high school level, so no, they do not allow anything remotely like that.

 

[Alex337]

Alex337:

Long ramble that seems to side step the question. Please summarise; yes there are advantages or no there are not?

umm a two paragraph explanation taking the example of income is not long ramble. If you look moderately at the text you will find the answer explicitly stated at least twice.

If it’s simple I’m sure you can sum it up with a yes/no answer.

 

[Alex337]

Alex337:

Would your workplace really allow harassment? You should speak with your union rep and/or HR department because I know for a fact my workplace wouldn’t let that slide. Nor would my partner’s.

I substitute teach at the high school level, so no, they do not allow anything remotely like that.

Good. I don’t know anywhere it happens either. We have anti-discrimination laws to stop just that.

 

[abucs]

If it’s simple I’m sure you can sum it up with a yes/no answer.

I am sure you can read two paragraphs and get your answer.

 

[Alex337]

Alex337:

If it’s simple I’m sure you can sum it up with a yes/no answer.

I am sure you can read two paragraphs and get your answer.

I already said I found it to be avoiding the question. Much like this is. Shall I assume you don’t believe what folks have any advantage and simply don’t want to say it?

 

[abucs]

I already said I found it to be avoiding the question. Much like this is. Shall I assume you don’t believe what folks have any advantage and simply don’t want to say it?

look this is really silly, you wanted to know the answer. I treated the question seriously and gave you an answer. A clear answer. If you are not understanding it then it is also clear you are not wanting to understand it so out conversation will end right here and I will have to conclude you are more irrational than I had thought.

 

[Alex337]

Alex337:

I already said I found it to be avoiding the question. Much like this is. Shall I assume you don’t believe what folks have any advantage and simply don’t want to say it?

look this is really silly, you wanted to know the answer. I treated the question seriously and gave you an answer. A clear answer. If you are not understanding it then it is also clear you are not wanting to understand it so out conversation will end right here and I will have to conclude you are more irrational then I had thought.

If it’s so clear I’m sure you could sum it up starting with either “yes, I believe white people have advantages over black people in our society because” or the reverse. You seem to be trying very, very hard to avoid that though.

 

[abucs]

and I said that twice in those two paragraphs I wrote almost exactly the words you are demanding.

Discussion from me ended until you are sensible.

 

[Alex337]

Sorry, but if they were you would have been able to clarify by now. I already explained that I found your reply to be avoiding the question and failing to answer it clearly. I’m forced to assume you don’t think white people have any advantages in society but really, really don’t want to be up front in saying it as it can be so easily disproven. Or you worry that if you say you do believe there are advantages it will prove that white privilege exists, which it does.

 

[abucs]

Sorry, but if they were you would have been able to clarify by now. I already explained that I found your reply to be avoiding the question and failing to answer it clearly. I’m forced to assume you don’t think white people have any advantages in society but really, really don’t want to be up front in saying it as it can be so easily disproven. Or you worry that if you say you do believe there are advantages it will prove that white privilege exists, which it does.

This is exactly why people think political correctness is a type of madness. You live inside your own head and project values on others, expecting the right to control interaction.

The truth is that the answer is more nuanced and complex. My qualified answer doesn’t fit into your narrow minded view of the world and so you pretend to yourself that it is not giving an answer. Such action is the road to madness.

 

[Randolph]

Despite its many flaws, I agree with you that the US is the least racist country. But it is often blamed for being most racist. Racism comes from all races—not just whites against blacks or others. Often, it disguises itself in many variety of shades. Your co-workers, people sitting next to you in the pew on Sundays, your classmates, people you share a meal with, your neighbors, etc… can hold racist view against you while they are conversing with you.

I would add that, in addition to education as a mean to combat racism, respect is as effective as a mean, if not more. Common sense dictates that it would be a steeper climb to hate if one respects the very persons that one hates.

 

[Alex337]

Alex337:

Sorry, but if they were you would have been able to clarify by now. I already explained that I found your reply to be avoiding the question and failing to answer it clearly. I’m forced to assume you don’t think white people have any advantages in society but really, really don’t want to be up front in saying it as it can be so easily disproven. Or you worry that if you say you do believe there are advantages it will prove that white privilege exists, which it does.

This is exactly why people think political correctness is a type of madness.

Because it catches people in attempts to avoid simple questions and points out their flawed logic?

 

[Alex337]

Alex337:

Sorry, but if they were you would have been able to clarify by now. I already explained that I found your reply to be avoiding the question and failing to answer it clearly. I’m forced to assume you don’t think white people have any advantages in society but really, really don’t want to be up front in saying it as it can be so easily disproven. Or you worry that if you say you do believe there are advantages it will prove that white privilege exists, which it does.

This is exactly why people think political correctness is a type of madness. You live inside your own head and project values on others, expecting the right to control interaction.

The truth is that the answer is more nuanced and complex. My qualified answer doesn’t fit into your narrow minded view of the world and so you pretend to yourself that it is not giving an answer. Such action is the road to madness.

Sorry, friend, the question was really simple. You avoided it because it proves your view incorrect and that hurts.

 

[abucs]

Despite its many flaws, I agree with you that the US is the least racist country. But it is often blamed for being most racist. Racism comes from all races—not just whites against blacks or others. Often, it disguises itself in many variety of shades. Your co-workers, people sitting next to you in the pew on Sundays, your classmates, people you share a meal with, your neighbors, etc, can hold racist view against you while they are conversing with you.

I would add that, in addition to education as a mean to combat racism, respect is as effective as a mean, if not more, to combat racism. Common sense dictates that it is a steeper climb to hate if one respects the very persons that one hates.

I think the teaching of Christianity is a good way to create respect between people.

 

[Alex337]

If you say, friend. I found the question really simple to answer. White folks have certain privileges that black folks don’t; that happens when people have centuries of oppression. You can’t just sweep all that away in a handful of decades.

 

[abucs]

I found the question really easy to answer also.

Here is that easy answer again…

Well we are talking generalities here so of course there will be literally millions of people who are the opposite of the generalities.
If we look at income for example then white people have more income than blacks.
But then Nigerian immigrants have higher incomes than whites.
Asians and certain Jews have higher incomes than whites and Hispanics fall between whites and blacks.
So if we take income as an example and look at the table then yes whites and just about every other group has advantages over blacks generally although as mentioned Nigerian immigrants are closer to the top of the pile above whites.
Of course there are many other ways we can generally compare racial groups. Income is but one and the data says that generally whites have an advantage over blacks.
Including this in white privilege without talking about Asian privilege or Nigerian privilege is going to provoke a backlash.