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jam070406
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He’s not a Dem, he supports Ron Paul.
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kubark
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Here are a few:
The relevant portion is:
"Sen. Arlen Specter and former Sen. Rick Santorum – political allies during their tenures in Congress – were in dual damage control mode Sunday after Santorum told conference goers that in 2004, he and former President George Bush endorsed Specter in the Pennsylvania Republican primary against Pat Toomey after Specter pledged support for Bush’s Supreme Court nominees.
Specter flaty denied any deal to secure campaign help from Bush and Santorum in exchange for support of judges who opposed Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court case that legalized a woman’s right to choose.
“I never made any promise to Senator Santorum about this. I would never make a promise on a vote like this under any circumstances. I’m sorry his support for me has caused him trouble in his efforts for the Republican nomination for president. He’s had six years to make this charge and he hadn’t said anything about it,’’ Specter said.
The relevant portion is:
According to an account of the exchange on the Washington Post’s website, Mr. Santorum told a questioner, “The reason I endorsed Arlen Specter is because we were going to have two Supreme Court nominees coming up. I got a commitment from Arlen Specter that no matter who George W. Bush would nominate, he would support that nominee.”
The report prompted an immediate attack on Mr. Specter from his primary challenger, U.S. Rep. Joe Sestak, along with a firm denial from the incumbent.
“I never made any promise to Sen. Santorum about this. I would never make a promise on a vote like this under any circumstances,” Mr. Specter said in a statement issued by his campaign.
Someone is lying…
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kubark
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The more one looks at Rick Santorum, the more there is not to like.
For example, Santorum became involved in a scandal later known as the “K Street Project”. Lobbying firms were pressured to hire high ranking Republican lawmakers and to grant GOP lobbyists with access to influential decision makers. Led by Congressman Tom Delay, now a convicted felon, the Project had associations with lobbyists including Jack Abramoff. Santorum played the role of Senate liaison to the K Street Project. He soaked up the Washington lobbyist culture. The connections made by Santorum landed him high-paying lobbying opportunities after he lost his seat in the senate.
Santorum also cosponsored the Workplace Religious Freedom Act with Democrat Senator John Kerry. The legislation would impose on business owners the requirement that they accommodate the religious practices of their employees. It is Santorum’s belief that if companies don’t cater to their employees sundry faith observances then they should be compelled by law to change their business practices. Government is Santorum’s solution to social and business problems.
While in office, Santorum voted to spend taxpayer money to fight AIDS globally, to help underprivileged children in third world countries, to pay off debts owed to the US by other nations and to combat political instability in Sudan. He voted to increase welfare programs such as Healthy Start. Such social-welfare spending projects are not typically associated with the concept of Republican conservatism.
Rick Santorum claims to be a fiscal conservative, yet voted five times to raise the debt ceiling - adding trillions to the federal deficit. He also strongly supported the largest hike in welfare entitlement spending in history (prior to Obamacare) – Medicaid Part D. This was George W. Bush’s free prescription medicine program, virtually socializing the pharmaceutical industry. Santorum gleefully voted to enrich the industry he had received so many campaign contributions from. In fact, Santorum was such a favorite of GlaxoSmithKline that, following the loss of his senate seat, executives wrote, “The defeat of [Santorum] creates a big hole we need to fill.” The leaked memo is evidence that unprincipled politicians, like Santorum, can still be bought and sold in the USA.
In 2006, Santorum was named the “Most Corrupt Politician” by a political watchdog group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. The Pittsburgh Post Gazette reported that Santorum took the most cash from corporate lobbyists of any other politician in Washington, adding that Santorum “has a black belt in hypocrisy” (10/22/2006).
Santorum was, and is, a strong supporter of the neoconservative “War on Terror.” He proposed sanctions for Syria. In 2005, Santorum sponsored a bill aimed at overthrowing the government of Iran, called the Iran Freedom and Support Act. As part of his opposition to Iran, Santorum recommended that America fight for “a strong Lebanon, a strong Israel and a strong Iraq.” These positions are unconstitutional and are not in the best interests of our national security.
Santorum supported the invasion of Iraq. In 2006, he announced that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq – a claim later proven false.
The list goes on…
nolanchart.com/article9242-the-real-dirt-on-slick-rick-santorum.html
And this is the guy we think will beat Obama? Not a chance.
For example, Santorum became involved in a scandal later known as the “K Street Project”. Lobbying firms were pressured to hire high ranking Republican lawmakers and to grant GOP lobbyists with access to influential decision makers. Led by Congressman Tom Delay, now a convicted felon, the Project had associations with lobbyists including Jack Abramoff. Santorum played the role of Senate liaison to the K Street Project. He soaked up the Washington lobbyist culture. The connections made by Santorum landed him high-paying lobbying opportunities after he lost his seat in the senate.
Santorum also cosponsored the Workplace Religious Freedom Act with Democrat Senator John Kerry. The legislation would impose on business owners the requirement that they accommodate the religious practices of their employees. It is Santorum’s belief that if companies don’t cater to their employees sundry faith observances then they should be compelled by law to change their business practices. Government is Santorum’s solution to social and business problems.
While in office, Santorum voted to spend taxpayer money to fight AIDS globally, to help underprivileged children in third world countries, to pay off debts owed to the US by other nations and to combat political instability in Sudan. He voted to increase welfare programs such as Healthy Start. Such social-welfare spending projects are not typically associated with the concept of Republican conservatism.
Rick Santorum claims to be a fiscal conservative, yet voted five times to raise the debt ceiling - adding trillions to the federal deficit. He also strongly supported the largest hike in welfare entitlement spending in history (prior to Obamacare) – Medicaid Part D. This was George W. Bush’s free prescription medicine program, virtually socializing the pharmaceutical industry. Santorum gleefully voted to enrich the industry he had received so many campaign contributions from. In fact, Santorum was such a favorite of GlaxoSmithKline that, following the loss of his senate seat, executives wrote, “The defeat of [Santorum] creates a big hole we need to fill.” The leaked memo is evidence that unprincipled politicians, like Santorum, can still be bought and sold in the USA.
In 2006, Santorum was named the “Most Corrupt Politician” by a political watchdog group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington. The Pittsburgh Post Gazette reported that Santorum took the most cash from corporate lobbyists of any other politician in Washington, adding that Santorum “has a black belt in hypocrisy” (10/22/2006).
Santorum was, and is, a strong supporter of the neoconservative “War on Terror.” He proposed sanctions for Syria. In 2005, Santorum sponsored a bill aimed at overthrowing the government of Iran, called the Iran Freedom and Support Act. As part of his opposition to Iran, Santorum recommended that America fight for “a strong Lebanon, a strong Israel and a strong Iraq.” These positions are unconstitutional and are not in the best interests of our national security.
Santorum supported the invasion of Iraq. In 2006, he announced that weapons of mass destruction had been found in Iraq – a claim later proven false.
The list goes on…
nolanchart.com/article9242-the-real-dirt-on-slick-rick-santorum.html
And this is the guy we think will beat Obama? Not a chance.
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Sonic
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The source of Kubark’s post word for word.
nolanchart.com/article9242-the-real-dirt-on-slick-rick-santorum.html
A prime example of The Backfire Effect in action:
youarenotsosmart.com/2011/06/10/the-backfire-effect/
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RACJ
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It's just a silly, gratuitous remark from a mind freshly scrubbed by government institutions of lower learning. :blush: Rob:shrug:
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kubark
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Thanks for the citation. See my post.
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Sonic
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Thank you for having the integrity to go back and edit your post with the source.
Btw, the edit is time stamped. So we all know you edited the source in after I pointed it out.
Written on the bottom of your post:
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Havard
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I dated a woman who worked for Rick. She had lots of good things to say about him, personally and professionally. I just wish he was more thoughtful about how he puts certain issues. Like yesterday, his comparing gays to ballerinas. Every time I hear one of these foot-in-mouth comments, I realize how much he needs to grow to really represent a fully mature Catholic.
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mlund
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You know, that’s not a terrible idea. Their identities as “gay” is just as irrelevant to the Public Interest as one’s identity as a “ballerina.” That is to say, irrelevant and undeserving of federal subsidy or penalty, glorification or censure.
- Marty Lund
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JMJSHJ
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I am telling you that a sincere Catholic wouldn’t purposely contradict Catholic teaching like what you are doing. Cease and desist this.
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Caldera
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Occupy Protesters Surround Santorum and Family After Final New Hampshire Pitch
abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/occupy-protesters-surround-santorum-and-family-after-final-new-hampshire-pitch/
“This is your moment,” he told New Hampshire voters, before railing into the president.
“If Barack Obama is re-elected, America as we know it will be gone,” Santorum said. “We will be a country that is no longer independent.”
He asked supporters to “go out and vote for someone” who believes in the state motto, “Live Free or Die.”
abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/occupy-protesters-surround-santorum-and-family-after-final-new-hampshire-pitch/
“This is your moment,” he told New Hampshire voters, before railing into the president.
“If Barack Obama is re-elected, America as we know it will be gone,” Santorum said. “We will be a country that is no longer independent.”
He asked supporters to “go out and vote for someone” who believes in the state motto, “Live Free or Die.”
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Josephene
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'Live free/ or die ’ ! - are those truthful words for any one with Christian /Catholic values !
The Apostles spent their last days , after having lost their earthly freedoms , yet kept their freedom in The Spirit , to know who they are in The Lord - a royal priesthood , thus able to forgive and pray for those who persecuted them !
Being able to ask forgiveness , for any and all public offenses of any sort - such as for having chosen to support persons with wrong values , for political expedaincy , supporting a President who went to war when he should not have , may be even being too uncharitable in comments about the morally weak - that could give the public reassurance about the more maturing in wisdom in a candidate and signs of true freedom !
The nation could well use such grace flowing from the top and who knows what avalanche of repentance of wrong choices that could set off - from the greedy , from even among those savage enough to use calumny , with all its ‘promised’ ill effects to follow , for those who choose same !
Psalm 109 gives the picture of what caluminators are calling down for themsleves - ‘may his days be few …his chidren fatherless …and beg …’
vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20111208_xlv-world-day-peace_en.html - an excellent document , that summarises the values of what those who care for the young can strive to carry and what are the foundational ways , to bring peace , whether in familes or nations !
Being able to read with a Catholic/ Christian mind , with none of the built in antipathy that can be there among some of the others , Santorum should be able to see if he is or has erred from the narrow path and easily able to retrace , to help the nation and even the world , to follow !
It might take some dying unto the self - the sort of Chrstian dying , to pride , vain glory, stubborness , lies that we all might strive against - to live in the true freedom and rejoice in the true freedom , that one is living as a child of The Living God , in the heavenly company of saints and angels , not striving to create little fiefdoms of one’s own values or false imaginations !
The Apostles spent their last days , after having lost their earthly freedoms , yet kept their freedom in The Spirit , to know who they are in The Lord - a royal priesthood , thus able to forgive and pray for those who persecuted them !
Being able to ask forgiveness , for any and all public offenses of any sort - such as for having chosen to support persons with wrong values , for political expedaincy , supporting a President who went to war when he should not have , may be even being too uncharitable in comments about the morally weak - that could give the public reassurance about the more maturing in wisdom in a candidate and signs of true freedom !
The nation could well use such grace flowing from the top and who knows what avalanche of repentance of wrong choices that could set off - from the greedy , from even among those savage enough to use calumny , with all its ‘promised’ ill effects to follow , for those who choose same !
Psalm 109 gives the picture of what caluminators are calling down for themsleves - ‘may his days be few …his chidren fatherless …and beg …’
vatican.va/holy_father/benedict_xvi/messages/peace/documents/hf_ben-xvi_mes_20111208_xlv-world-day-peace_en.html - an excellent document , that summarises the values of what those who care for the young can strive to carry and what are the foundational ways , to bring peace , whether in familes or nations !
Being able to read with a Catholic/ Christian mind , with none of the built in antipathy that can be there among some of the others , Santorum should be able to see if he is or has erred from the narrow path and easily able to retrace , to help the nation and even the world , to follow !
It might take some dying unto the self - the sort of Chrstian dying , to pride , vain glory, stubborness , lies that we all might strive against - to live in the true freedom and rejoice in the true freedom , that one is living as a child of The Living God , in the heavenly company of saints and angels , not striving to create little fiefdoms of one’s own values or false imaginations !
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Elle_C
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I just want to comment on the “Unjust war” issue.
Tell me it was unjust:
foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html
I feel Justice was served cold.
Tell me it was unjust:
foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html
I feel Justice was served cold.
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LiveCatholic
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Hm… How much do I support Israel and its Hawks who always turn up like a bad penny whenever there is conflict in the region?
Our ‘staunch’ ally who spies on us, blows up our servicemen*, ignores our defense interests to sell military technology to our competitor, and lent SUCH an ENORMOUS help during Operation: Iraqi Freedom. Oy vey!
If there’s a reason Operation: Iraqi Freedom was justified, its because Sadam Hussein was a neo-feudal despot, who slaughtered his own people and centralized wealth in the hands of his political party. **The Israelis occupy that strip of land at their own peril, … and the peril of the Palestinian Christians caught in the middle. **
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qui_est_ce
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I my gosh, I clicked on a link on that website and found the most vile things being spread about Rick Santorum to slander him. I will up my prayers for him.
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Elle_C
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OH, I just looked and you’re right. I always knew that Google was a VERY left company. They did something similar to George W Bush when he came into office. They refuse to fix their search engine, well, that’s just a disgusting example of things that the leftist liberals will do to discredit anyone they dislike.
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Elle_C
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First off, there is a disclaimer on the top of the WIKI site (which is not actually written by historians, but just people that may feel like spinning a truth a bit. This is the reality of wikipedia) saying that changes and history may not be correct. and that that should be taken into consideration. I tend to not really believe much of what I read on wikipedia. Second, the USS Liberty was an incident that occurred in 1967. I think considering the past 44 years, our relationship has changed. Of course they spy on us and everyone. We do as well. It would be remiss to trust blindly. Only God gets that trust from me.Hm… How much do I support Israel and its Hawks who always turn up like a bad penny whenever there is conflict in the region?
Our ‘staunch’ ally who spies on us, blows up our servicemen*, ignores our defense interests to sell military technology to our competitor, and lent SUCH an ENORMOUS help during Operation: Iraqi Freedom. Oy vey!
If there’s a reason Operation: Iraqi Freedom was justified, its because Sadam Hussein was a neo-feudal despot, who slaughtered his own people and centralized wealth in the hands of his political party. **The Israelis occupy that strip of land at their own peril, … and the peril of the Palestinian Christians caught in the middle. **
I don’t blame them one bit for no assist on Iraqi freedom-they were told they would be attacked by their neighbors if they even thought about it. I’d stay home too. You do remember the restraint they showed when being under fire in 1991, right. I remember HW Bush asking them to not respond when they were attacked, which is, in my opinion much more than I would have been able to take.
Palestinian Christians are in peril from Palestinian Muslims, not the Israelis. If they feel unsafe, they need to move, out of Gaza. Israel is like the US, it is a melting pot of religions and none harass the other, unless you count the Muslims killing Jews every now and again.
I wonder how many other nations would give back land won in war and history to the previous squatters. None. I support their right to exist, and be protected as our only allies in the middle of chaos. Iraq was an absolute threat to it’s own people, the US and Israel. I believe they are only better for Saddam’s removal.
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kanzaz
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I have to Watch more of these Debate’s I’ve been Missing A Few & Start seen what this “Santorum’s” Guy is about & What changes can he do For Our Country & As Catholics Before Deciding On if I want to Vote for him .
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DihydrogenOxide
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ME!
He’s solid. catholic. conservative. Plus, he started the bill against partial birth abortion. WOOHOO!
Way better than the “settle for” moderates like Romney and Paul.
He’s solid. catholic. conservative. Plus, he started the bill against partial birth abortion. WOOHOO!
Way better than the “settle for” moderates like Romney and Paul.
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Della
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He has to make it through NH and SC before I can even get a chance to vote for him, or anyone else for that matter, in our primary here in MN.
It’s jumping the gun just a bit, don’t you think to ask if people outside those two states will vote for him?
Or did you mean to ask, “If RS is the GOP candidate, will you vote for hiim”? In that case, I’d say yes.
It’s jumping the gun just a bit, don’t you think to ask if people outside those two states will vote for him?
Or did you mean to ask, “If RS is the GOP candidate, will you vote for hiim”? In that case, I’d say yes.
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