Rioting aftermath in Kenosha

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" The law enforcement–obsessed 17-year-old who was charged with shooting and killing two people and injuring another in Kenosha, Wisconsin, during protests for Jacob Blake appeared in the front row at a Donald Trump rally in January.

Kyle Howard Rittenhouse’s social media presence is filled with him posing with weapons, posting “Blue Lives Matter,” and supporting Trump for president. Footage from the Des Moines, Iowa, rally on Jan. 30 shows Rittenhouse feet away from the president, in the front row, to the left of the podium. He posted a TikTok video from the event."
 
I don’t care to watch this video of the shooting done by Rittenhouse. I’ve seen enough such videos but I have heard speculation defending him. It’s not anything goes as far as mobs go. And this has been a problem with these protests, when they become riots and destroying property.
 
This is what happens when politicians allow riots to happen
Sometimes maturity helps people to avoid a bad situation. There was looting in my neighborhood earlier this year and I carry often. However, I would not and did not go down to where the looting was occurring armed.
 
Rittenhouse appeared to be part of a team there to defend a car lot. So, it seems he was participating in a sort of job but adults may have brought them there. It does sound like a youthful error in judgement obviously. Still, the pawnshop or gun shop in Minneapolis saw someone killed. We are talking about what Rittenhouse did wrong, perhaps, we should consider what the others did wrong. If I were to go into a store to loot, set on fire or break windows, there would be a risk factor.

Really, in Minneapolis, I understand most of the businesses burned down were minority owned.
 
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Honestly the kid has sacrificed his life for very little, even if you try to wrap it up as “justice.” He’s going to prison for most of his life to impress fashy nerds on 4chan, basically.
Going to prison for decades to own the libs
 
Are you Catholic, by chance? If so, you have a lot of theology to read up on.
Didn’t witness in what way? Be there in person you mean? Were you there? Perhaps you’ve seen things I haven’t. Feel free to enlighten.
What?? You’re the one accusing Kenosha police of arresting too few people, not me. I wasn’t a witness, so I’m not making such absurd speculations.
This is an absurd statement.
I’m simply following your rationale to its natural conclusion. “I feared for my life. He could’ve been reaching for a gun.”
I was talking about how the narrative that the police are driving around just looking for innocent black men to hunt down and kill, is nonsense.
Who in this thread said that? Let’s address points we’ve actually made, not ones you (may have) heard elsewhere.
We are talking about what Rittenhouse did wrong, perhaps, we should consider what the others did wrong. If I were to go into a store to loot, set on fire or break windows, there would be a risk factor.
As bad as it is, business owners can get their windows back with insurance settlements. Or worse, out of pocket. Rittenhouse’s victims will never get their lives back. So let’s try not to equate the two, please. Taking the life of another is something we take very seriously in Catholicism.
 
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Whether or not a police officer shooting an unarmed man in the back seven times was “just doing his job” is highly suspect, but I’m confident that the courts will work that one out.

In the meantime, please stop trying to equate the two. Jacob Blake is paralyzed for life despite the clear intent to kill him. The officer is not.

I really don’t think you really know enough to prove that the cop shooting an unarmed man seven times was acting in line with Church teaching. 🤔
 
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This is what happens when politicians allow riots to happen
Sometimes maturity helps people to avoid a bad situation. There was looting in my neighborhood earlier this year and I carry often. However, I would not and did not go down to where the looting was occurring armed.
I agree with this. I would not go intentionally to an area where there is likely to be violence. However, much like rioters who feel the need to hurt people, steal and break things because of a real or perceived injustice, there are those who will take the law into their own hands when those charged with that responsibility abdicate it…which is also a real or perceived injustice.
 
I agree with this. I would not go intentionally to an area where there is likely to be violence. However, much like rioters who feel the need to hurt people, steal and break things because of a real or perceived injustice, there are those who will take the law into their own hands when those charged with that responsibility abdicate it…which is also a real or perceived injustice.
That was not really the question.You posted that riots were ‘allowed’ to happen. Well, this youth crossed state lines to be out after curfew as a self-appointed protector? Then he runs and falls carrying a rifle at port arms?

It does no good to blame the unrest on someone else. This adolescent made some bad decisions. That is without even assessing if his shooting was warranted or not.
 
I don’t think that riots have anything to do with police brutality, except being used as an excuse for rioting, looting, burning, destroying private businesses, and engaging in anarchy. City officials should have stopped the rioting at once, and should enforce law and order, and never let rioting happen.

The place to obtain justice is in the courts, not in the streets.

And I don’t think it is just minority boys who should get the talk on how to deal with police. I was told as a teen that if stopped by the police, be cooperative, be polite, keep your hands visible on the steering wheel, and before reaching for anything, tell the cop what you are going to do and ask permission. And that’s exactly what I did.
 
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I agree with this. I would not go intentionally to an area where there is likely to be violence. However, much like rioters who feel the need to hurt people, steal and break things because of a real or perceived injustice, there are those who will take the law into their own hands when those charged with that responsibility abdicate it…which is also a real or perceived injustice.
That was not really the question.You posted that riots were ‘allowed’ to happen. Well, this youth crossed state lines to be out after curfew as a self-appointed protector? Then he runs and falls carrying a rifle at port arms?

It does no good to blame the unrest on someone else. This adolescent made some bad decisions. That is without even assessing if his shooting was warranted or not.
I did use the word “allow.” Portland…Minneapolis…Seattle…those riots, violent protests, looting were allowed to happen. All people who engage in unrest are responsible…but there is some causality here. I’m not excusing the kid, but had the police had a strong presence first, he might have been dissuaded from going there.

Again, this will get worse…unless governors / mayors / police chiefs do their jobs.
 
That’s right. They should entertain me while their people get shot in the back on the streets by police!
Their people? What do you mean by “ their people”? I thought they were Americans. Our people.
Is that like saying, “you people”?
 
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No, I don’t think it was the ‘community’ that did the destruction to unrelated local businesses. His family pleaded for non-violent protests, not rioting.

This sort of response is akin to a child throwing a temper tantrum. The ‘community’ did not burn down their own housing and destroy black owned businesses.
I totally agree with this. What sort of entitlement makes people of any creed think it is ok to destroy others livelihoods and property.
70 year old man was beaten up trying to protect his business from looters. He is in the hospital with a broken jaw. Who is going to pay his medical bills and who will pay for the damage to his business and what the looters stole from his business? Why should this 70 year old man be beaten up and his business ransacked and looted for something two police officers did?
Video is too graphic to post here.
What is wrong with society.

Yes shooting someone in the back is absolutely wrong. There is no trust in proper legal process if this cop gets off or is not charged.
That’s what would have happened had he not resisted.
Resisting does not justify holding his t-shirt and shooting him in the back at point blank range 7 times. How could that ever justify this.

I suspect the riots are being egged on by professional agitators who have no other agenda then to stir @@@@
 
I suspect the riots are being egged on by professional agitators who have no other agenda then to stir
That may be true, but if there were no incidents of police brutality, the professional agitators would be rendered impotent. No one would be inclined to listen to them.
 
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LOL, it sounds like you’re rushing to judge me for rushing to judge, which is a sin.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crim...-man-was-walking-away-lawyer-says/ar-BB18kvKc
Many questions remained unanswered Monday afternoon, the day after Kenosha, Wis., police officers opened fire on an unarmed Black man
I watched the video of the police wrestling him down. It did not look assault to me. And that brazen officer most certainly didn’t look scared.

And to repeat, the cop was not following Church teaching by shooting an unarmed suspect in the back seven times. :roll_eyes:
I don’t think that riots have anything to do with police brutality, except being used as an excuse for rioting, looting, burning, destroying private businesses, and engaging in anarchy.
Agreed. But the protests - which took place for the majority of the day by the majority of people - had everything to do with it. They’re just not as sexy for journalists to cover.
The place to obtain justice is in the courts, not in the streets.
Maybe tell that to the officer who decided on a de facto death penalty?
 
As bad as it is, business owners can get their windows back with insurance settlements.
That’s not necessarily true. Policies are not required to cover for damages caused by riots and civil commotion. Better check the policy fine print in case those rioters show up in one’s neighborhood. The wallet one saves may be their own.

A fair number of business owners aren’t going to make it back if they have to make it up out of pocket. I know you won’t shed a tear for them, but you might consider the long term effects of the damage done before making excuses for the rioters. Anyone check out what’s happening with that intersection in Minneapolis? Yes, that intersection.
 
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