One does not need to defend themselves from a weapon. They need to defend themselves against a person wielding a weapon. Unless the officer knew there was a knife and that Blake was going for it, there is nothing to defend against.LeafByNiggle:
Knives kill thousands of people. Of course, it was a weapon that one needs to defend themselves from.
It does feel frustrating when people talk past me, but I’m over it.
I find this a highly ironic statement in a thread in which police defenders are trying to spin this officer’s impulsive choice to shoot an unarmed man seven times as being “the Democrats’ fault.”
You cannot blame what this cop did on the Democrats. It was his choice, one for which he alone is responsible.
Um, did I?
The police department. The city can write certain law, but they’re mostly responsible for their own policies. Can you direct me to which part of Kenosha city code ordered this officer to shoot an unarmed man seven times in the back?
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Actually, NPR interviewed the county sheriff yesterday, who said that he refuses to deputize citizens precisely because Kyle Rittenhouse murdering those two people proved why it was a bad idea.
Perhaps they smashed him with a skateboard because they found it necessary to defend against him. He did look pretty threatening. And if we have learned anything from police shootings it is that when someone looks threatening, you can bop him.
… Interesting… most interesting indeed.
Do you even keep track of who you ask questions of? Literally your first communication to me in this thread was asking why I was dodging your questionKMC:
It does feel frustrating when people talk past me, but I’m over it.
I point out I have no idea what you are referring to. Your reply:
whatever…
We allow immigration so this is not really a question in the US.
Rittenhouse though, was not a police officer. He was there to defend the car lot. I certainly do no tknow all of the circumstances, however, members of the mob may have been trespassing.
Exactly. He should have left the policing to trained police. That’s what got him into that mess in the first place. Also he was illegally carry a weapon. The minimum age to carry a gun like that is 18.
But they are stated. Without evidence.
Recognize it as bias. Is the bias based on the race of the police officer, or some other factor?
Okay. Large cities. The point remains.
50 of more years in most circumstances. And these events still happen. Who is responsible for the culture and practices Within these jurisdictions?
Why not? If it were a Republican mayor, do you think for a nanosecond the leftist media would repeat what you just said in reverse?
No, and I didn’t say you did, just like you didn’t name me in the paragraph I responded to.
They work for the mayor. The mayor is the chief executive officer. Period.
I never said statute, but you’re making an excellent case against the claim of institutional racism.
It is wrong to assume that there is no racism in small cities or rural areas run by conservatives. In fact there is far more racism in such places. But that racism rarely gets turned into an incident because such places are also fairly homogeneous in race and culture. So of course you don’t hear about some black kid being shot by police. There are no black kids. Or if they are, they keep to themselves and do not interact that much with the whites. So your observation that racist incidents happen more in big cities is just a byproduct of the diversity and high density of big cities, and not the policies of the leaders, be they conservative or progressive.LeafByNiggle:
50 of more years in most circumstances. And these events still happen. Who is responsible for the culture and practices Within these jurisdictions?
Where did I say that? There is racism. I would demand that a racist not claim to be a conservative or a liberal because they are incompatible and contradictory. One cannot say? On the one hand, you believe in individual rights, while on the other hand say some people do not deserve individual rights, because they are inferior or for any other reason.
Obviously not. The numbers prove otherwise.
I’m sure you have a source that proves people who do not act racist towards blacks really are racist. If one must choose between racism in the cities that kills people and racism in rural areas that doesn’t, I think the choice is obvious.
Specious reasoning. Very.
Oh, in that case, I am glad to hear that you do not blame the progressives for racism.LeafByNiggle:
Where did I say that?
You “demand?” You are in no position to demand what racists claim. If a racist wants to claim he is a conservative, who is to stop him?
What numbers? The numbers of racist incidents? I just got done explaining why there are few incidents in such places.LeafByNiggle:
Obviously not. The numbers prove otherwise.
How do you know how someone would act towards a black person if that person never needs to deal with black people? History has shown that whenever a community is highly homogeneous, it is naturally going to be distrustful of people who do not look like them. But people who grow up in a diverse culture, encountering people of various races throughout their life, and must less likely to see those other races as people to be distrusted.
How exactly does one implement that choice? By segregation? That might work. But it is also immoral.
I do say that.
Call me naive but I don’t think Ireland had encountered too many people of color when Frederick Douglass visited. And he was welcomed.
Actually, since you’re into keeping track, you broke in on my conversation with JonNC. I asked him which Democrat in Kenosha ordered the shooting, and you jumped in with a glib response in the form of a a link rather than addressing the question. But as you said, whatever.
No. Fox News and Breitbart would have. Was this some attempt at a gotcha question?
And so I ask again, this time in hopes of an answer, what specific command from the mayor or city code is responsible for the police brutality?
So far we know it was a cop who made the choice to shoot an unarmed man seven times.