Rioting aftermath in Kenosha

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GKMotley said:
Mentally ill folk, or others unable to function in society, need care. Instutionalized, if necessary.
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They used to do that. Not anymore. Most of them are now homeless and much more difficult to reach, let alone care for.
GKMotley said:
Dome light, hands on wheel, in the upper quadrant (easily visible), and a pleasant and positive demeanor.
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Been doing that a long time now as I have had less than edifying encounters with LEO’s. Hands on upper part of steering wheel is especially important.

Still doesn’t keep them from wanting to search for cash in certain jurisdictions that practice cash forfeitures.
 
As to what used to be done, I know. Recall how old I am. Don’t tell anyone.

And don’t move around in the car, reaching for stuff and bending over, as the LEO approaches. Makes them nervous.

Never had anyone want to search my car. I don’t fit any profile. If they did, they’d find a bunch of quarters I use for parking meters, pay phones (old, remember), etc. Nothing else.
 
GKMotley said:
Never had anyone want to search my car. I don’t fit any profile. If they did, they’d find a bunch of quarters I use for parking meters, pay phones (old, remember), etc. Nothing else.
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You’re legally allowed to say that you don’t consent to searches. It may not stop them, but it may also help you later in court.
 
LeafByNiggle said:
Exactly. He should have left the policing to trained police. That’s what got him into that mess in the first place. Also he was illegally carry a weapon. The minimum age to carry a gun like that is 18.
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I’m not condoning it but I understand why he acted this way.
 
GKMotley said:
Never had anyone want to search my car. I don’t fit any profile. If they did, they’d find a bunch of quarters I use for parking meters, pay phones (old, remember), etc. Nothing else.
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I’ve got a friend where a police asked to search her car, and she told him she will not consent to such a search. No search was done.
 
GKMotley said:
Never had anyone want to search my car. I don’t fit any profile. If they did, they’d find a bunch of quarters I use for parking meters, pay phones (old, remember), etc. Nothing else.
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I’m jealous, lol.
blackforest said:
You’re legally allowed to say that you don’t consent to searches. It may not stop them, but it may also help you later in court.
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You are correct.

On the other hand, an LEO can “probable cause” his way into your car and the search will stand up if he can get the judge to accept that probable cause.
 
Polak said:
Despite the cop being white and driver of the car being black, as Reuters was keen to point out, there is no evidence of this being motivated by racism.
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Think of ‘race role conditioning’. It means having presumptions about people based on race. It happens and it can mean black police officers shooting black victims. It is part of racism.

I was a graduate student at a university near a black neighborhood. It was well-known that the id checkers (who were minorities) looked much closer at the ids of the minority students than those of the white students. Race role conditioning.
 
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I may legally decline . And they may, given circumstances, cause some inconvenience, assuming probable cause. Absence a plant of some illicit substance or propaganda from the Democratic Party (seditious, perhaps), I have no likelihood of getting in front of a judge. I’ve been there once, on a red light violation. Told the judge I didn’t run the light. Didn’t know why the officer thought I did, but I didn’t. Case dismissed. Over 50 years ago.
 
I understand that there are folks who run into these sort of things. Then there are folks who reach an advanced age, knowing the game, and the rules, and not having anything of interest to a LEO in the car.
 
Or how about how Herbalife (which is basically a pyramid scheme pretending to be a company) just paid the government $123 million of shareholder money to prevent its officers from facing charges that they bribed Chinese officials? If I bribed a senator, I’d go to prison (probably for longer than he would for accepting the bribe), but these guys issue bribes and actually make money on the deal!

www.benzinga.com

Herbalife Shares Bounce Off Lows Following $123M Corruption Settlement - Herbalife (NYSE:HLF)

Shares of multi-level marketing company Herbalife Nutrition Ltd (NYSE: HLF) were briefly halted on Friday after news broke of criminal charges against the company related to corruption in Chin
www.benzinga.com www.benzinga.com
 
AlNg said:
I let them search my car and I also let the border control search my car. It doesn’t bother me one way or the other.
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The friend is an attorney. Her stance is not based on whether or not it bothers her, but that even in the absence of willful illegal behaviour allowing a search is something that is primarily to disadvantage. The possible outcomes range from neutral to negative.
 
Unless, of course, on your 6 month well baby check at the car dealership, some miscreant dumped a pot of roaches under your floor mat.

Paranoid I be, but not that paranoid.
 
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