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And, she said that, as Governor of South Carolina she “removed a symbol of divisiveness” from the Capital.

Why didn’t she say, “Confederate flag”? 🤔
 
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Why is Kimberly Guifoyle so angry. Did she not know there was a microphone?
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I thought what she stated was fine. The way she said it seemed appropriate as she changed topics, she changed emotion.

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There is a difference between America being racist - and individual people being racist … I doubt you consider yourself particularly racist …

I understand that people of color are exempt from being racist [though I see evidence that indicates that at least some are] and since all together they make up a significant percentage of the population of America - America - as a whole - America - as an entity - is not racist … that stroke is too broad

I know that is counter to the common message of your particular part affiliation and as you leader often times has exhibited and spoken overtly racist ideas over the last 50 years or so - including the last few weeks. Thus you are conditioned to believe everyone is racist - you hear it, your are told it is fact.

However, in my lived experience, the vast majority of all Americans could careless what your color, your religion or ethnic affiliation is. If you live in the same neighborhood they want you to mow your grass and not have 10 dead cars in the front yard and not throw wild noisy drunken parties … If you work together, you want someone who knows what they are doing and and who are competent. You want safe cities, safe transportation, safe neighborhoods and you dont want gangs and drugs sold to your children and thieves robbing your businesses.
 
Perhaps in the roll call, but there are some non-White speakers.

I would say so far, so good, technically speaking. The Republicans didn’t have as much time to put it all together as the Democrats had, so there is less glitz.

On the other hand, some of what certain speakers said reminded me of the Seinfeld episode featuring Bizarro World.
 
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There is a difference between America being racist - and individual people being racist … I doubt you consider yourself particularly racist …
I grew up white and middle class in the South in the 60s, so, yeah, I do. I try not to have racist attitudes or act in racist ways.
I understand that people of color are exempt from being racist [though I see evidence that indicates that at least some are] and since all together they make up a significant percentage of the population of America - America - as a whole - America - as an entity - is not racist … that stroke is too broad
There seems to be a whole lot of racist people and racist policies (like in the redlining thread). Does that make a former slave owning country racist?
I know that is counter to the common message of your particular part affiliation
I am a former Republican and now independent. Not a Democrat and will never be one.
However, in my lived experience, the vast majority of all Americans could careless what your color, your religion or ethnic affiliation is.
I think nowadays color and political affiliation/ideas are the flashpoint.

Thanks, by the way, for a thoughtful post.
 
I would say so far, so good, technically speaking. The Republicans didn’t have as much time to put it all together as the Democrats had, so there is less glitz.
Yes, I acknowledge that. They had a rough task.
 
The Republicans didn’t have as much time to put it all together as the Democrats had, so there is less glitz.
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why did one party have less time to put together a convention as the other party had? They both knew when the election would be and they both had the same information available about any restrictions resulting from the pandemic.
The Episcopalians used to be called they Republican Party at prayer’
Out of curiosity, do you know when that phrase dates from? In the UK, the Church of England used to be known as “the Conservative Party at prayer”. I assume it’s not called that any more, as the political views of its membership have diversified a lot. I believe the phrase was coined in 1917 by Maude Royden. I wondered whether the phrase about the Republican Party was already in use by then, whether it was borrowed from the British phrase, or whether the two phrases came about independently.

In both countries, it seems that the positions of the churches have moved (more dramatically in the case of the Episcopal Church, perhaps), but that the positions of the political parties have also moved. It’s hard to imagine Episcopalians who, for example, supported Bob Dole in 1996 also supporting Trump.
 
Did they have less time?

They usually follow each other by a week or so.
 
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but why did one party have less time to put together a convention as the other party had? They both knew when the election would be and they both had the same information available about any restrictions resulting from the pandemic.
The Republicans, because of their political stance on Covid-19, were hell bent on having an in-person convention to show the country everything was okay to reopen.

Reality got in their way. They decided “last minute” to do a virtual convention, so had less time to plan.
 
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Although President Donald Trump promised a more optimistic and bright convention – in contrast to what his team castigated as a dark and depressing vision of America offered by Democrats last week – most of the speeches were anything but. The overall tone was that if Trump isn’t reelected, doom will assuredly follow.

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Well, they were invited to speak at the GOP convention, and it went just about how you probably thought it would go. Not well. Much of their speech felt like I was watching a “Saturday Night Live” skit as Patricia McCloskey repeatedly warned that “no matter where you live, your family will not be safe in the radical Democrat America.” Scare tactics, anyone? Also, the couple closing their speech by saying “God Bless America” in unison was a chef’s kiss.
 
Republican or Democratic convention, all they spout is jingoistic hogwash, why would I want to torture myself watching or listening to cowpat rhetoric.
 
But the speaker lineup was decided at least?

I’m not sure why Don Jr’s girlfriend got to speak.

She used to be an assistant DA many years ago.

She was one of the prosecutors the case in San Francisco with the couple who owned two vicious dogs that killed their neighbor.


Now she works for the campaign in some capacity.
 
And heavens know, if you disrespect an authority, you might end up shot 7 times like the poor fellow in Wisconsin.
Do you think that’s it; that he was shot because he disrespected authority? I guess we’ll eventually see.
 
The Republicans, because of their political stance on Covid-19, were hell bent on having an in-person convention to show the country everything was okay to reopen.

Reality got in their way. They decided “last minute” to do a virtual convention, so had less time to plan.
I see. So they did (as I assumed) have exactly the same amount of time to plan, but they chose not to plan as well. I honestly don’t understand how the Republican Party managed to make a pandemic into a political issue. Our own Conservative government has handled the pandemic very badly, but that is entirely due to incompetence. Indeed, the one government minister whose efforts have been almost universally praised, Rishi Sunak, has dealt with the crisis by implementing policies that are the opposite of what his party has traditionally stood for.
 
I honestly don’t understand how the Republican Party managed to make a pandemic into a political issue.
I think it wasn’t on purpose.

The Republican Party right now is a cult of personality around the President. He admits he doesn’t plan things, just makes up what he’ll do during the day. That precludes formulating and implementing long-term plans.

When you add his narcissism and his need for everything to be the best and biggest and no one is as good or as smart as him, you get the whole, “Nothing is wrong, Everything is fine” while people are dying left and right.
 
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