Rosalind Moss' New Community -Daughters of Mary, Mother of Israel's Hope

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One more suggestion for Klyde and anyone else who is seriously interested in the new community:

Rosalind is scheduled to be on the Catholic Answers radio show this coming Wednesday March 5, 2008.

The Pacific time for Roz is 3:00PM Would that be 5:00 in the Midwest? If you don’t have Cathlic radio in your area just click on the Listen button here at Catholic Answers on the Net.

Try to call her early…even try to get in before the show starts if that is possible. I noticed that the last time she was on there were many callers waiting for her before the phone lines were officially opened up. That’s probably why the questions were not about her new community. She wants nuns to “flood” the country. I suggest all of you prospects “flood” her line and ask about her community next Wednesday. :extrahappy:
The toll free number is: 888-318-7884
I will be calling Thanks
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One more suggestion for Klyde and anyone else who is seriously interested in the new community:

Rosalind is scheduled to be on the Catholic Answers radio show this coming Wednesday March 5, 2008.

The Pacific time for Roz is 3:00PM Would that be 5:00 in the Midwest? If you don’t have Cathlic radio in your area just click on the Listen button here at Catholic Answers on the Net.

Try to call her early…even try to get in before the show starts if that is possible. I noticed that the last time she was on there were many callers waiting for her before the phone lines were officially opened up. That’s probably why the questions were not about her new community. She wants nuns to “flood” the country. I suggest all of you prospects “flood” her line and ask about her community next Wednesday. :extrahappy:
The toll free number is: 888-318-7884
Reminder bump
 
Yes, yes, yes, this is exactly what I was wondering about…now, puhlleeeese tell me who to contact and how! JMJ, Kathielee
 
Yes, yes, yes, this is exactly what I was wondering about…now, puhlleeeese tell me who to contact and how! JMJ, Kathielee
Rosalind gave out her e-mail address over the radio today:

rosalindmoss@gmail.com "g"mail

She said to be patient if you e-mail her because she is very busy fulfilling all her obligations before settling down in St Louis.

Please e-mail her and if it is not personal…let us know if you hear from her.
 
Rosalind gave out her e-mail address over the radio today:

rosalindmoss@gmail.com "g"mail

She said to be patient if you e-mail her because she is very busy fulfilling all her obligations before settling down in St Louis.

Please e-mail her and if it is not personal…let us know if you hear from her.
Thank you for passing on her email address…
 
Thank you for the phone number. 👍 I wonder if anyone knows the address to write to her?
 
I hate to rain on anyone’s parade, but…wait a minute.

R is a laywoman. She isn’t a religious. To become a religious she has to be trained as one, minimum one year novitiate (canon law experts?) Then professed by a bishop. She needs lodging, money, apostolate, training for same. Her novices need training by people already professed. Is this order affiliated or under the wing of another order, like the SSME were trained under the Cecilia Dominicans? This order has to start out as a diocesan institute or pious union or something. What is it? Who’s doing the training? Where is the money and housing coming from?

Remember how the sisters at OSB Pecos had to take a year of official approved novitiate or leave–even tho’ they were already professed? Some left.

A number of orders, including those with habits, are accepting older vocations now, women into their 60’s. Most recent I heard of are the Srs. of St. Rita in Racine, WI, of a final profession who has to be in her 60’s. Women in their 50’s are commonly entering everywhere.
 
I hate to rain on anyone’s parade, but…wait a minute.

R is a laywoman. She isn’t a religious. To become a religious she has to be trained as one, minimum one year novitiate (canon law experts?) Then professed by a bishop. She needs lodging, money, apostolate, training for same. Her novices need training by people already professed. Is this order affiliated or under the wing of another order, like the SSME were trained under the Cecilia Dominicans? This order has to start out as a diocesan institute or pious union or something. What is it? Who’s doing the training? Where is the money and housing coming from?

Remember how the sisters at OSB Pecos had to take a year of official approved novitiate or leave–even tho’ they were already professed? Some left.

A number of orders, including those with habits, are accepting older vocations now, women into their 60’s. Most recent I heard of are the Srs. of St. Rita in Racine, WI, of a final profession who has to be in her 60’s. Women in their 50’s are commonly entering everywhere.
Bishop Burke of the St Louis Diocese has taken Rosalind under his wing and will take care of all the technicalities.
Rosalind will be going through all the steps along with all the other novices to become a habit-wearing nun.
She calls her future group of religious women a religious community of nuns. I may have miss-spoke when I called it an “order”. But she will definitely be a nun.

That is wonderful news that there are other orders/communities that are accepting older women. Roz’s community is unique. Her nuns will be preaching on the streets and taking the good word into the homes. For older women who would not want that kind of life they might want to consider the group in Racine, WI. Thanks for telling us about that group.

If it starts to rain on Rosalind’s parade I am sure she will start “Singing in the Rain”.
 
I hate to rain on anyone’s parade, but…wait a minute.

R is a laywoman. She isn’t a religious. To become a religious she has to be trained as one, minimum one year novitiate (canon law experts?) Then professed by a bishop. She needs lodging, money, apostolate, training for same. Her novices need training by people already professed. Is this order affiliated or under the wing of another order, like the SSME were trained under the Cecilia Dominicans? This order has to start out as a diocesan institute or pious union or something. What is it? Who’s doing the training? Where is the money and housing coming from?

Remember how the sisters at OSB Pecos had to take a year of official approved novitiate or leave–even tho’ they were already professed? Some left.

A number of orders, including those with habits, are accepting older vocations now, women into their 60’s. Most recent I heard of are the Srs. of St. Rita in Racine, WI, of a final profession who has to be in her 60’s. Women in their 50’s are commonly entering everywhere.
Private association of the faithful can also be known as a pius union. That’s what they are the first few years, until they get vocations and grow.

Once they have grown and have several in final profession, they can be declared a “public association of the faithful,” and can make new foundations.

Novitiate has a “canonical year”–one year required by canon law.

It’s not uncommon for the aspirants to be sent to another convent with similar charism to receive their training. Such may happen for a number of years. Depends on the fledgling community.

The nuns who are wanting to form their own community become “exclaustrated,” so they can devote themselves to their new community.

The founding sisters from the SMME were from Nashville, but they gave their postulants the training. Sr. Joseph Andrew was the Nashville novice mistress when I was discerning.

I’ve got the proposed Cloisterites, and those over 50 who wish a more contemplative lifestyle can come to us.

cloisters.tripod.com/cloisterites/

Their “active” order will be the Cenacle Religious of the Renewal:

cloisters.tripod.com/cenacle/

We will also have–eventually–the Congregation of Charity of the Miraculous Medal, Servants of the Poor:

cloisters.tripod.com/charity/

Blessings,
Cloisters
 
I thought you all might be interested in this interview. I have e-mailed Rosalind, and I received a brief reply, just letting me know that she had read her mail. She is a bit busy with speaking engagements, but she said she’d write when she had a bit of free time. I will keep everyone posted.

stlouiscatholic.blogspot.com/2008/03/saint-louis-catholic-interview-with_10.html
Thank you! 🙂

I hope everyone reads the interview.
The only thing missing in the interview was the age requirement. I think the interviewer assumed the order was for “young” women only.
The article did call her new comunity of nuns an “order”. I wasn’t sure if she had called it an order or a community of nuns.

I’m looking forward to your updates.
 
Any updates on the progress of Rosalinds new order?
Hi ! We are all waiting in anticipation!

The best thing to do would be to call the Archdiocese of St. Louis and talk to a vocation director if you are interested in possibly a vocation with this order. From what I understand, she is getting ready to head to St. Louis but will have to spend one year as a novice before anything will actually being.

Kathie
 
Hi ! We are all waiting in anticipation!

The best thing to do would be to call the Archdiocese of St. Louis and talk to a vocation director if you are interested in possibly a vocation with this order. From what I understand, she is getting ready to head to St. Louis but will have to spend one year as a novice before anything will actually being.

Kathie
Thank you, Kathie. I will keep watching, with great interest. God bless. Praying for Rosalind, very much. She is doing God’s Work! 🙂
 
Thank you, Kathie. I will keep watching, with great interest. God bless. Praying for Rosalind, very much. She is doing God’s Work! 🙂
Thank you for reminding us to pray for Roz. I have a very special respect and awe for anyone who has all the responsibilities of running a big organization and still can stay 100 per cent Catholic. I have a beautiful picture of Jesus praying in the garden before his trial on my desk. When I become overwhelmed with all the “agony” involved in running a business I gaze at His picture. Every day I say special prayers for my two favorite CEO’s Mother Angelica and Pope Benedict. Both of them accepted God’s challenge to get involved with all the misery of “running a business” for God when they would have been so much more comfortable just doing their chosen vocations. Pope Benedict did not want to become pope. He had planned to spend his aging years writing. I am sure Rosalind would have a much easier life if she just continued giving her lectures and talking on the radio and TV. She will be sharing in Christ’s “agony in the garden” when she steps into the role of “founder”. Blessed Mother Teresa would be a good intercessor for Rosalind. I propose we ask Jesus through the intercession of Blessed Mother Teresa to watch over Rosalind during these difficult days of starting up a new religious community.
 
Hi All. I live in St Louis, heard of Rosalind Moss’s new future relgious community on Catholic Answers Live program. I can update this thread when there are new happenings mentioned in St Louis newspapers or TV spots or websites.

Here’s a link to a blog called Saint Louis Catholic and mentions a bit more than what has been discussed here already. They might blog about this more as time goes on.

I sincerely wish the best to Rosalind Moss. She is a wonderful light in the Catholic Church!

🙂 😉

Sue
 
In regards to the term Nun - this is reserved for Papal Enclosed religious women. Since what has been posted here does not reflect (according to Rosalind Moss’s own words) that this is anticipated in the new community she is forming - I believe the word Sister (which denotes one who has an active apostolate) would be the title she would use (or Mother as superior if she chose). There is a quote from Rosalind that calls this life contemplative/active.
Therefore this puts the community out of the Papal Enclosed category.

The normative developement for any emerging community is private association of faithful, public association of faithful, Diocesan Institute of Consecrated Life (at first granted temporarily - usually for three years). Since this is a new form of life and she is not yet affiliated with an order (like Benedictines, Dominicans, Franciscans, Augustinians) nor has she mentioned she intends to, then she will remain as a Diocesan institute unless the Holy Spirit enlarges her tent pegs to encompass the world so to speak. What the church looks for in emerging communities is a charism that is not duplicated in another form of consecrated life - in other words a need in the church for today. From what she has stated, and the fact that Archbishop Burke (who has a doctorate in Canon Law) has accepted her would indicate that he sees this as a new charism for the Church. Archbishop Burke is prophetic voice for the Church in America regarding new forms of consecrated life.
 
In regards to the term Nun - this is reserved for Papal Enclosed religious women. Since what has been posted here does not reflect (according to Rosalind Moss’s own words) that this is anticipated in the new community she is forming - I believe the word Sister (which denotes one who has an active apostolate) would be the title she would use (or Mother as superior if she chose). There is a quote from Rosalind that calls this life contemplative/active.
Therefore this puts the community out of the Papal Enclosed category.

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“according to Rosalind Moss’s own words”
In the interview you will find in post number 52 Rosalind is quoted a few times referring to her group as both an order and community and she uses the word nun a few times also.
When she spoke at the breakfast that I attended she referred to her group as a community of habit-wearing nuns.
Of course, she was addressing the public and did not get too technical about her choice of words. She didn’t call it an “order” at the breakfast but instead called it a religious community of “nuns”.
 
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