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Califman831
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With obama’s supposed high intellect shouldn’t he have learned that killing innocent children is wrong.
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meltzerboy
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meltzerboy
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Come now, that’s a moral issue rather than a question of intelligence, and people of different religious faiths have honest disagreements about abortion. Besides, we really can’t expect our politicians to have the highest moral standards: after all, they’re politicians!
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Luigi_Daniele
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The disagreement may be honest, but it is still murder. And I submit that the vast majority of the “honest” disagreement (at least among pro-abortion politicians) is hooey
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Stjudeprayforus
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Why yes… he learned his utter failure early…
Gitmo still open… perhaps he learned Bush was right?
Spending billions on a stimulus was not going to keep unemployment under 8%… he learned his utter incompetence with basic economics with that one.
Perhaps he learned raising taxes during a recession isnt such a good idea as he said during the campaign. He didnt raise taxes on those awful rich people. Perhaps he learned quickly the error in his thinking on that one…
He learned that pesky issue of being transparent and posting bills online for 3 days was… not really his thing.
He learned a big lesson in 2010 when his party got a ‘shellacking’ because of his…uh… brilliance in raming a healthcare bill through that nobody read and the vast majority of Americans dont want.
And now… I guess I will just be watching his math skills as he tries to explain how medicare collapsing in 9 years warrants no changes.
But, yeah. liberals… keep trying to convince me that Palin is stupid and that guy who cant speak without a telepromter is so brilliant.
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gilliam
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I haven’t noticed that Obama is that bad in US history. And he knows more about West African and Indonesian and Pakistanian history than probably any president we have had.
GW Bush, believe it or not, was pretty good in US history.
Palin we have to admit, has the understanding of US history that most US citizens have. That is part of what is endearing about her. She is one of the masses, not someone above the masses, not one of the elite.
If the US population doesn’t know history, we have ourselves to blame. We have not stressed history in our schools. It is a shame. Read this today, and I agree:
It is a narrative of slaves and soldiers, inventors and investors, demagogues and visionaries, of homicide, fratricide and genocide, of truths held self-evident and of government of the people, by the people and for the people. It is a narrative of Europeans leaving Europe yearning to breathe free and the children of slaves leaving the South yearning for the same. It is a narrative of blood on French beaches and a man on the moon.
And we allow all that to be forgotten at our own peril. How can our children write the next chapter of a story they don’t even know?
So, while it is comforting to think Palin’s gaffe speaks only to her own considerable limitations, it is also short-sighted. The evidence suggests that she is less an exception to, than a reflection of, a nation that is in the process of forgetting itself.
Read more: miamiherald.com/2011/06/07/2255658/dont-blame-sarah-palin-for-lack.html#ixzz1OdOEidgS
GW Bush, believe it or not, was pretty good in US history.
Palin we have to admit, has the understanding of US history that most US citizens have. That is part of what is endearing about her. She is one of the masses, not someone above the masses, not one of the elite.
If the US population doesn’t know history, we have ourselves to blame. We have not stressed history in our schools. It is a shame. Read this today, and I agree:
It is a narrative of slaves and soldiers, inventors and investors, demagogues and visionaries, of homicide, fratricide and genocide, of truths held self-evident and of government of the people, by the people and for the people. It is a narrative of Europeans leaving Europe yearning to breathe free and the children of slaves leaving the South yearning for the same. It is a narrative of blood on French beaches and a man on the moon.
And we allow all that to be forgotten at our own peril. How can our children write the next chapter of a story they don’t even know?
So, while it is comforting to think Palin’s gaffe speaks only to her own considerable limitations, it is also short-sighted. The evidence suggests that she is less an exception to, than a reflection of, a nation that is in the process of forgetting itself.
Read more: miamiherald.com/2011/06/07/2255658/dont-blame-sarah-palin-for-lack.html#ixzz1OdOEidgS
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Big_Dummy
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ROFL,it turns out Sarah was right, she was giving them a college level answer and the press was trying to correct her with third grade misinformation. For one thing, he never shouted the “British are coming” because that would have broke military protocol.
poetry.eserver.org/paul-revere.html
Paul Revere’s really did warn the British too
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meltzerboy
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I could but I’m not going to debate these points, because the thread is really about Palin, not Obama. But I will say that, for all Obama’s faults, if Palin is elected it will be much worse for all of us, guaranteed.
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Stjudeprayforus
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Ya know… come to think of it.
How many Budgets have been passed since Obama took office?
Guess he doesnt know that much about Gov’t after all.
Was his brilliance showing when he said about raising the debt in 2006:
*The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
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Or he just learning how that pesky Govt thing works on the job?
How many Budgets have been passed since Obama took office?
Guess he doesnt know that much about Gov’t after all.
Was his brilliance showing when he said about raising the debt in 2006:
*The fact that we are here today to debate raising America’s debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the U.S. Government can’t pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government’s reckless fiscal policies. … Increasing America’s debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that ‘the buck stops here. Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.
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Or he just learning how that pesky Govt thing works on the job?
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Big_Dummy
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Your kidding right? Have you seen how much he has spent and wants to spend?
meltzerboy
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To you, as a Catholic, abortion is always murder. To me, as a Jew, there are exceptions, based on Scripture. Same for Quakers, I believe, but for different reasons. I don’t want to discuss abortion on this thread. We have many other threads on which the topic is discussed.
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Big_Dummy
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Paul Revere’s really did warn the British too
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“Those quibbling with Governor Palin’s statements have their history incomplete. During Paul Revere’s ride he was stopped by British soldiers, which Revere recounts in a 1789 letter maintained by the Massachusetts Historical Society ,in his original language (emphasis mine):
I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from,& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he asked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. **He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms.He then orderd them to advance, & to lead me in front. **When we got to the Road, they turned down towards Lexington. When we had got about one Mile, the Major Rode up to the officer that was leading me, & told him to give me to the Sergeant. As soon as he took me, the Major orderd him, if I attempted to run, or any body insulted them, to blow my brains out. **We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much.” **macsmind.com/wordpress/index.php
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“Those quibbling with Governor Palin’s statements have their history incomplete. During Paul Revere’s ride he was stopped by British soldiers, which Revere recounts in a 1789 letter maintained by the Massachusetts Historical Society ,in his original language (emphasis mine):
I observed a Wood at a Small distance, & made for that. When I got there, out Started Six officers, on Horse back,and orderd me to dismount;-one of them, who appeared to have the command, examined me, where I came from,& what my Name Was? I told him. it was Revere, he asked if it was Paul? I told him yes He asked me if I was an express? I answered in the afirmative. **He demanded what time I left Boston? I told him; and aded, that their troops had catched aground in passing the River, and that There would be five hundred Americans there in a short time, for I had alarmed the Country all the way up. He imediately rode towards those who stoppd us, when all five of them came down upon a full gallop; one of them, whom I afterwards found to be Major Mitchel, of the 5th Regiment, Clapped his pistol to my head, called me by name, & told me he was going to ask me some questions, & if I did not give him true answers, he would blow my brains out. He then asked me similar questions to those above. He then orderd me to mount my Horse, after searching me for arms.He then orderd them to advance, & to lead me in front. **When we got to the Road, they turned down towards Lexington. When we had got about one Mile, the Major Rode up to the officer that was leading me, & told him to give me to the Sergeant. As soon as he took me, the Major orderd him, if I attempted to run, or any body insulted them, to blow my brains out. **We rode till we got near Lexington Meeting-house, when the Militia fired a Voley of Guns, which appeared to alarm them very much.” **macsmind.com/wordpress/index.php
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Stjudeprayforus
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Ah but its RECOVER SUMMER!Your kidding right? Have you seen how much he has spent and wants to spend?
uh… ooooops… that was last year. Never mind.
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bbarrick8383
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Hard to guarantee pure speculation based on no facts. She was good for Alaska, that is a fact.
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Beau_Ouiville
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I mentioned Palin’s all too obvious ignorance in some areas. When you think about it, that’s what this thread is about. Not the president nor abortion.
She does not have the breadth of knowledge to be the commander in chief.
meltzerboy
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As Barbara Bush said about Sarah Palin: she should stay in Alaska. Well, now Arizona.
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estesbob
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Sorty Beau. When you voted for Obama you lost any moral authority to question anyones qualifications for President
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bbarrick8383
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I don’t really care what Mrs. Bush said. She is just as much of an elitist as the rest of them.
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Stjudeprayforus
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Either do I.
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