Schwarzenegger: ‘Extreme Right Wing’ Of Republican Party Has Litmus Test That ‘Doesn’t Allow Compromise’

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fix said:
It is not intended as a theological term. It is a shorthand term used to convey that a person claims to be Catholic while rejecting the authority of the Church.
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As you can see, I’ve adopted the term Catholic heretic. It’s an accurate term, so heretics can’t play the “they’re still Catholic,” “they’re just sinners in need of repentance,” etcetera games. Plain and simple heretics, by definition.
 
rlg94086 said:
What is the best term for the latter?
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I often wonder about these silly debates. If a Catholic has an ontologically changed soul in hell what is the benefit in being pedantic about being called Catholic?

So the soul is in hell but screaming I am a Catholic. The issue is not whether CINO is correct or not. The issue is too many Catholics publically reject Church authority while claiming fidelity and bringing great scandal.
 
fix said:
I often wonder about these silly debates. If a Catholic has an ontologically changed soul in hell what is the benefit in being pedantic about being called Catholic?

So the soul is in hell but screaming I am a Catholic. The issue is not whether CINO is correct or not. The issue is too many Catholics publically reject Church authority while claiming fidelity and bringing great scandal.
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Understood, but it leaves heretics with the ability to challenge your term due to the nature of Baptism. It is better to refer to them accurately and remove their ability to challenge your term.
 
qui_est_ce said:
What would you call Kathleen Sibelius?
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Second response. A heterodox Catholic who rejects Catholic teaching (which she does). But, a Catholic nontheless. Who knows but that she might have a change of heart and reconcile with the Church? Calling her a CINO doesn’t contribute to understanding IMO, of course.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Second response. A heterodox Catholic who rejects Catholic teaching (which she does). But, a Catholic nontheless. Who knows but that she might have a change of heart and reconcile with the Church? Calling her a CINO doesn’t contribute to understanding IMO, of course.
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Aka…a Catholic heretic - much shorter and to the point. Besides “heterodox” is too passive sounding. Someone who espouses heresy in public should be referred to as a heretic.
 
Rich_Olszewski said:
Second response. A heterodox Catholic who rejects Catholic teaching (which she does). But, a Catholic nontheless. Who knows but that she might have a change of heart and reconcile with the Church? Calling her a CINO doesn’t contribute to understanding IMO, of course.
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I must ask what is the difference between heterdox Catholic and CINO? Both convey bad things. Is nomenclature really that critical to the issue?
 
fix said:
I must ask what is the difference between heterdox Catholic and CINO? Both convey bad things. Is nomenclature really that critical to the issue?
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The latter is an insult.
 
fix said:
I must ask what is the difference between heterdox Catholic and CINO? Both convey bad things. Is nomenclature really that critical to the issue?
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Rich_Olszewski said:
The latter is an insult.
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See, fix? It is an insult to call a Catholic heretic a CINO. It is better to use a proper definition. Then, the insult they feel can not be attributed to the person using the term. It’s completely accurate. It would be like someone with same-sex attraction being offended by the term homosexual.
 
sedonaman said:
Anyone who demands
constant change in society
taxation for its own sake
that the people accept debauchery as normal
that the people accept murder of the innocent
that government punish the rich
redistribution of wealth
socialism as an alternative to free markets
big government
elimination of hierarchy
radical egalitarianism
is an extremist.

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These are not political definitions or clearly defined. If you want to seriously discuss, you’ll have to get a hold of what we mean by left, leftist, etc. Otherwise your statement about extreme left wing in US politics is meaningless. Listening to Hannity or M.Savage will not help, by the way.
 
He_Man said:
We prefer our insults not to be in latin, though.
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Right, but heterodox is from the Greek. 😉

heterodoxos < heteros “the other” + doxa opinion as opposed to “orthodox” correct opinion.
 
Jerry_Miah said:
These are not political definitions or clearly defined. If you want to seriously discuss, you’ll have to get a hold of what we mean by left, leftist, etc.
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I forgot that it depends on what the definition of “is” is.
Otherwise your statement about extreme left wing in US politics is meaningless.
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Seems like you have the identified the group correctly.
Listening to Hannity or M.Savage will not help, by the way.
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I told you in an earlier post that I do not listen to those shows.
 
MichaelTDoyle said:
I like that. Thank you.
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The problem is that there is a difference between disobedience and heresy. Not obeying a teaching you know to be true is a form of disobedience. Espousing heresy is a greater form of disobedience that brings scandal, especially when the person espousing the heresy is a public official.
 
christian7777 said:
As said by others, it stands for Republican in Name Only. It is a term used for Republicans who people feel are not true conservatives.
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Actually its for Republicans that don’t act like Republicans. George Bush was hardly a conservative but few people that knew what they were talking about ever called him a RINO.
 
SamH said:
Actually its for Republicans that don’t act like Republicans. George Bush was hardly a conservative but few people that knew what they were talking about ever called him a RINO.
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How do Republicans act? There are very conservative ones, and there are also the silk-stockinged country club types who tend to be liberal socially, but conservative fiscally.
 
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