Exactly so. We’ve seen discussions of the death penalty, e.g., some for it, some against it. Tell me, “Iamrefreshed,” in regards to the death penalty, which side is obedient and which disobedient to the Church?
I’m sure you have read the CCC on the death penalty, no?Exactly so. We’ve seen discussions of the death penalty, e.g., some for it, some against it. Tell me, “Iamrefreshed,” in regards to the death penalty, which side is obedient and which disobedient to the Church?
What would you call Kathleen Sibelius?
Well Rich, I was wondering since Abyssinia includes in her personal definition that a “CINO is somebody who calls themselves a Catholic but does not know a lot of Church teaching and does not go frequently to Church”, what she would call one who does know a lot and does go frequently bur still sins?
Brother JR said it best, “I’m still working on it, that’s why I’m a practicing Catholic”
I don’t think a Catholic who refers to women with large families as “broodmares” should be lecturing other Catholics about charity and name calling.
He certainly lacks historical perspective, as do you, apparently.
Brother JR said it best, “I’m still working on it, that’s why I’m a practicing Catholic”
That’s not what you said, which was, “There is no conservative or liberal in Catholicism, just obedient and disobedient.” You gave no in-between, so I chanllenged you to tell me which side in the death penalty debate was obedient and which disobedient. Your own words!
Right. So, if someone comes along and dumps on the Church, I should be excluded from the number who may take exception to whatever the person says.I don’t think a Catholic who refers to women with large families as “broodmares” should be lecturing other Catholics about charity and name calling.
Where did someone “dump on the Church” in this thread?Right. So, if someone comes along and dumps on the Church, I should be excluded from the number who may take exception to whatever the person says.
Exactly. And I’ll personally believe there has been this great leftward shift I keep reading about on CAF when I and all Amercicans have universal single payer healthcare like Canada and those Europeans, or something on the order of Medicare for All. Of course being certainly left of center, I’ve been personally looking forward to the day in my lifetime but I’m running out of time.
Well I challenge you to read post #59:wink:That’s not what you said, which was, “There is no conservative or liberal in Catholicism, just obedient and disobedient.” You gave no in-between, so I chanllenged you to tell me which side in the death penalty debate was obedient and which disobedient. Your own words!
I agree. I’d simply call such people who still manage to sin Catholics in need of recognizing their sins, of confessing them to a priest, of having a firm purpose of amendment, of obtaining absolution, and of performing the penance the priest prescribes.
A sinner who needs to repent.
The operative word is IF. It could happen on any thread, even on the Catholic News threads.Where did someone “dump on the Church” in this thread?
Oh, okay…I was referring to you lecturing on this thread.
I challenge you to read post #52 which is an unmodified statement of “obedient and disobedient.”
??? Mentioning a very conservative Democrat pretty much confirms my point for me
That’s great Christine that you’re still working on it. Lots of folks are on their faith journeys working on it. And as a Catholic bishop once told me, while there is the distinction between non practicng Catholics and practicing, being practicing does not exclude the possibility of sin in one’s life either. God bless you on your journey.Brother JR said it best, “I’m still working on it, that’s why I’m a practicing Catholic”