Schwarzenegger: ‘Extreme Right Wing’ Of Republican Party Has Litmus Test That ‘Doesn’t Allow Compromise’

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Another problem with calling people RINO or DINO is that the US doesn’t have a parlimentary system where having a small focused party gets you anything. By their very nature both parties have to be big tent parties. If you call people RINOs they might stop voting for republican candidates and voting for democrats and the other way around.
 
I challenge you to read post #52 which is an unmodified statement of “obedient and disobedient.”
I’ll explain it to you even though I suspect you must already understand and are prehaps being deliberately obtuse?😃

I think of CINO as someone who intentionally disobeys on the five non-negotiables. I clarified that to the other poster. Thus obedient and disobedient.

Is it really that hard to understand?🤷
 
That’s great Christine that you’re still working on it. Lots of folks are on their faith journeys working on it. And as a Catholic bishop once told me, while there is the distinction between non practicng Catholics and practicing, being practicing does not exclude the possibility of sin in one’s life either. God bless you on your journey.
Very true. I’m sure you didn’t need a bishop to tell you that. 🙂
 
I’ll explain it to you even though I suspect you must already understand and are prehaps being deliberately obtuse?😃

I think of CINO as someone who intentionally disobeys on the five non-negotiables. I clarified that to the other poster. Thus obedient and disobedient.

Is it really that hard to understand?🤷
But they are still Catholic by the Sacraments which have made an indelible mark on their soul, not just in name.
 
I’ll explain it to you even though I suspect you must already understand and are prehaps being deliberately obtuse?😃

I think of CINO as someone who intentionally disobeys on the five non-negotiables. I clarified that to the other poster. Thus obedient and disobedient.

Is it really that hard to understand?🤷
Well now, Abbysinia gave her definition of CINO, a rather broad one BTW, and you give me now a much narrower one.

Hard to determine now which of you two to trust. 😃
 
But they are still Catholic by the Sacraments which have made an indelible mark on their soul, not just in name.
I wish that those who throw CINO around would understand this. 🤷
 
Another problem with calling people RINO or DINO is that the US doesn’t have a parlimentary system where having a small focused party gets you anything. By their very nature both parties have to be big tent parties. If you call people RINOs they might stop voting for republican candidates and voting for democrats and the other way around.
I see the same problem with Catholics calling people CINO. They risk them stopping to visit the Catholic hospital and might seek care elsewhere.
 
Please name “far left wingers” that have anything to do with the US government.
Obama Biden Pelosi and many more
The left in general is hardly represented in US politics. By traditional standards, our two parties are center and right. Schwarzenegger is pointing out the obvious: For the last 30 years, both parties have gone more conservative, so that now the Dems are centrist and the GOP is right wing, and the extremists in the right wing have more and more power. Educate yourself about the reality of the situation and you’ll be doing yourself a favor.
You mean accept the propaganda. No thanks.
 
Obama Biden Pelosi and many more
This is the problem with terms like far left wing/far right wing. To me these terms essentially mean anyone who is far enough to one specific side that their ideology has a niche appeal to only a certain group, so pretty much by definition Obama couldn’t be a far left winger. The problem with setting it as some unchanging thing is that the standards change over time. Any major American politician for example would be considered a far left liberal if you transplanted him to 1500s England and they were advocating for things like universal suffrage and lowering the monarchies power.
 
I wish that those who throw CINO around would understand this. 🤷
Well I would have thought if they know teaching and the Catholic Church’s answer to the degree they claim, then understanding the concept of as Baer put it, “still Catholic by the Sacraments which have made an indelible mark on their soul” would not be a problem. 🤷
 
That’s great Christine that you’re still working on it. Lots of folks are on their faith journeys working on it. And as a Catholic bishop once told me, while there is the distinction between non practicng Catholics and practicing, being practicing does not exclude the possibility of sin in one’s life either. God bless you on your journey.
While I don’t care for the term CINO, what people are trying to distinguish between is non-practicing Catholics; practicing Catholics who, though still sinners, know and agree with what the Church teaches; and practicing Catholics who know what the Church teaches, disagree, spread their heretical views in public, and thereby create scandal.

What is the best term for the latter? Sinner doesn’t cut it, because we are all sinners. Catholic doesn’t cut it because all three are Catholic. Heretic? Catholic heretic?
 
Rich, I was listening to “On Point” the other night. Many of the callers stated those who opposed the HHS mandate were “extremist.” That is, 2,000 years of Catholic Teaching were labeled “extremist” by those on the left. :rolleyes:

“Extremist” is the left-wing code for Traditionalists.
Anyone who demands
constant change in society
taxation for its own sake
that the people accept debauchery as normal
that the people accept murder of the innocent
that government punish the rich
redistribution of wealth
socialism as an alternative to free markets
big government
elimination of hierarchy
radical egalitarianism
is an extremist.

The indispensable condition for our personal spiritual survival is that we say NO to the prevailing values of the liberal order and that we keep saying NO.
 
This is the problem with terms like far left wing/far right wing. To me these terms essentially mean anyone who is far enough to one specific side that their ideology has a niche appeal to only a certain group, so pretty much by definition Obama couldn’t be a far left winger. The problem with setting it as some unchanging thing is that the standards change over time. Any major American politician for example would be considered a far left liberal if you transplanted him to 1500s England and they were advocating for things like universal suffrage and lowering the monarchies power.
The standard I am using is the unchanging moral law. That bound us over 2000 years ago and does so today. An example would be endorsing legalized abortion. That is left of the moral law, far left in fact.
 
What is the best term for the latter? Sinner doesn’t cut it, because we are all sinners. Catholic doesn’t cut it because all three are Catholic. Heretic? Catholic heretic?
Try “heterodox.”
 
I wish that those who throw CINO around would understand this. 🤷
It is not intended as a theological term. It is a shorthand term used to convey that a person claims to be Catholic while rejecting the authority of the Church.
 
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