Its quite clear that they were hetrosexual and they turned from their natural state (hetrosexual) to a state that is unnatural for them (homosexuality).
Its also abundantly clear that they chose to turn their backs on God to worship something else. It also sounds like their sexual.
Ok, yes i agree with what you’ve said there, but, I’m just going to take a look at the second half of that verse King James version (just so that there are no disagreements on translations).
the first half of the verse you’ve already explained, ‘leave the natural use of the woman and turning to men’, but the second half, ‘men and men working that which is UNSEEMLY’, that suggests what they were doing was wrong or immoral. ‘and receving in themselves that RECOMPENCE of their ERROR which was meet’. Ok so the meaning of error is clear, and recompence means they were punished for what they did.
How can u not agree with that?
Of course it looks like they have “suddenly emerged”, until recently it was illegal to be homosexual (by recently I mean very late in the 20th century). You could be imprisioned for being gay and you could even be executed if you were homosexual, its no wonder that homosexuals kept quiet about their sexuality.
As far as being “born gay”, well the jury is still out on that one. Many researchers are going with theory of the combination of birth and early enviroment, but they are still not sure what triggers it.
Yes i appreciate that, but I think there might have only been a few people (not very many at all!) who had sexual tendencies to the same sex in some places, but not where i come, why do i think that? because i live on an island, so everyone knows everyone, and homosexuality was completely unheard of until recently, so because that wasnt something they brought up with at all, everyone married happily, and i mean everyone, single people were unheard of. But now that its something all kids know about, things are starting to change, in response to the ‘born gay’ thing, it is absolutely clear that NOONE is born gay, it is a hundred per-cent the enviroment in which they are brought up and social issues etc., thats why in my island its gone from no gays whatsoever (proven by everyone being married), to quite a number of (only younger) gays. And something i notice about all of them, is that they all have more girl friends and dont have many boy friends. Another thing i notice, none of them are in the church. It’s the culture, and the way it’s being considered ok now, that convince teens that if they can’t get a girlfriend may as well try being gay instead. Older males here don’t understand this reasoning at all, because of how different the enviroment in which they were brought up in was. Ok, people were pretty much being forced to be straight, but, so what? it worked.
Whereas Paul clearly stated that if you weren’t the marrying type (for whatever reason, i don’t think he was referring to gays cos they were nearly unheard of back then), that you should stay single cos its the best thing to do. I think being gay puts u under the ‘not marrying type’ umbrella.
Anyway in my opinion anyone can be straight, if they can go from straight to gay in the first place, they can revert back, although some people convince themselves they cannot and they’re in too deep and too stubborn. It’s almost more of a lifestyle than a sexuality. Contreversial? I dont care, its true.
I think that you are making that up, I certainly dont know what the heck “Lay lyings” means. It could mean dont have homosexual sex in a womans bed, it wouldnt be the strangest law that was written.
mmmh, hang on where is lay lyings coming from? i cant find that in any translation, the King James says “Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind: it is abomination”. Is that not clear?
I dont think its worth my while going into the meaning of abomination…
