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a_priori
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As if anyone would notice the difference.
Senate sets states' rights 'crimes' (Federal agents would be guilty of Class 6 felony)
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pnewton
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That is the game that the Feds play. They use federal funding as a hammer, yet never once do you hear of a corresponding suspension of federal taxes. The “federal” dollars that flow into a state are but a fraction of the dollars that first flow out. It is their own money that they are denying them. That is why I view the federal government as a form of tyranny when it uses this tactic. It is theft based on military might, or plundering and pillaging, done through lawyers.
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AngryAtheist8
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The world I want would include no theocracies or dictatorships, and would generally be a more prosperous and peaceful place than the world we actually live in.
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Scott_Lafrance
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Amen, finally a state enforcing its sovereignty under the Constitution and informing the federal government that the power comes from the states, not the other way around.finally, a state that is willing to excercise its sovereignty
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Scott_Lafrance
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How about they just give it back to the Arizonans? Why do they have to fall under some tyrannical, oppressive central government?At this stage, I’m tempted to sugest to the Feds that they give Arizona back to the Mexicans.
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LCMS_No_More
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I would add that if they want to act like they’re not part of the United States, we should treat them as such.
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Scott_Lafrance
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Or, they could take matters into their own hands, establish their own currency, and do better than the average slave state begging for Uncle Obama table scraps.
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Scott_Lafrance
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Hey, if the US is going to boot Arizona, I want a heads up so I can move there.
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Scott_Lafrance
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There is a name for that world, its called Fantasyland and I believe its featured in one of the Disney theme parks.
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LCMS_No_More
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If you really think that a landlocked border state can really survive economically on its own…
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SeaShoreGirl
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As a New Englander, with the ability to go to five different states in less than 3 hours, I think I hold a perspective that those living in the south or west don’t have.
For instance. Rode Island is about as liberal as it can get. It also contains the crystal meth capital of the united states.
Massachuessets. They seem to be taking a turn around. They tax less than some states, but they leglislate like crazy. Their “texting while driving” law actually backfired and has lead to more deaths.
Maine-taxes can be high but more or less in the middle. Lots of liberals.
New Hampshire. Live free or die. Zero sales tax, zero income tax, decent schools, property tax is “high” compared to MA and VT but about the same as NY
Vermont-loads of liberals, some taxation issues, some political issues.
Conn-lots of NYC liberals. They like the yankees…'nuff said.
New York (NOTE NOT A NEW ENGLAND STATE)- their upstate tax burdan is SO great that it create poverty among all classes.
I have lived in three of those states in the past 5 years. I have to say that there’s a big difference in the environment when one is not burdand by large sales tax, when the state dosn’t have to levee thigns becuase the federal government is taking everything.
If I had to pick a state to live in when the proverbial poo hits the fan, it’d be NH. They seem to look out for the citicizens and protect them from federal goverment nonsense by beign MORE fair than necessary.
Arizona is delving into foolish territory, but one can hardly blame them. The federal goverment has basically turned a blind eye to illegals and given them handout after handout ment for US citizens. They have made the burdan of proving citizenship fall unfairly on small business owners. And the states suffer.
Can’t say I blame them, can’t say I’d support them.
For instance. Rode Island is about as liberal as it can get. It also contains the crystal meth capital of the united states.
Massachuessets. They seem to be taking a turn around. They tax less than some states, but they leglislate like crazy. Their “texting while driving” law actually backfired and has lead to more deaths.
Maine-taxes can be high but more or less in the middle. Lots of liberals.
New Hampshire. Live free or die. Zero sales tax, zero income tax, decent schools, property tax is “high” compared to MA and VT but about the same as NY
Vermont-loads of liberals, some taxation issues, some political issues.
Conn-lots of NYC liberals. They like the yankees…'nuff said.
New York (NOTE NOT A NEW ENGLAND STATE)- their upstate tax burdan is SO great that it create poverty among all classes.
I have lived in three of those states in the past 5 years. I have to say that there’s a big difference in the environment when one is not burdand by large sales tax, when the state dosn’t have to levee thigns becuase the federal government is taking everything.
If I had to pick a state to live in when the proverbial poo hits the fan, it’d be NH. They seem to look out for the citicizens and protect them from federal goverment nonsense by beign MORE fair than necessary.
Arizona is delving into foolish territory, but one can hardly blame them. The federal goverment has basically turned a blind eye to illegals and given them handout after handout ment for US citizens. They have made the burdan of proving citizenship fall unfairly on small business owners. And the states suffer.
Can’t say I blame them, can’t say I’d support them.
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Scott_Lafrance
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The Grand Duchy of Luxembourg has one of the most robust and stable economies in all of Europe. I can’t see why not. Is oceanfront property a requirement for prosperity?
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LCMS_No_More
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Except for one thing. If Arizona decides to secede, the United States doesn’t look favorably on rebellious states. It’s far more likely that there will be a blockade around Arizona for its seditious rebellion against the United States and we would probably have Mexico also enforce the blockade. Since Arizona needs the resources of the United States than the United States needs the resources of Arizona, I think the rebellion would be short-lived.
California, on the other hand, could probably do BETTER than it is now if it weren’t bogged down by the former confederacy, but I digress.
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Scott_Lafrance
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IF AZ opted to secede, they could run to the UN and decry the “brutal and oppressive regime of the United States”. That would be rich.
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LCMS_No_More
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They could try. They’d also be laughed at as they’re escorted out the door.
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Scott_Lafrance
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So, the UN only honors requests from its fellow big government, socialist cabal friends then?
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LCMS_No_More
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Nice way to frame the issues. It makes it look like something it’s not.
It’s simply a case of one state declaring itself independent of the United States (which CREATED the State of Arizona) in unlawful rebellion. Sorry, but that’s sedition at best, treason at worst.
On the other hand, I’m perfectly willing to let the entire confederacy, including states that would have been confederate if they were states then, including Arizona. I’d also be for a complete blockade of the rebel states. If they don’t want the United States, we can show them what it’s like to be without us.
Wanna guess of what color I would have worn in the Civil War?
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Scott_Lafrance
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The citizens of Arizona created the State of Arizona. The federal government allowed them into the union. That is the way the process works. Just like Puerto Rico. The federal government cannot just unilaterally MAKE PR a state. The people of PR need to vote to see if they even want to be a state, which thusfar has not happened.
My guess, just based on past postings, is that you prefer the tyranny of the majority and would have worn blue.
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SamH
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Switzerland seems to do OK to.
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SamH
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Actually that war was over the ability of a minority of the states to disolve the union - an item not addressed in the Constitution.
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