Sheriff Dupnik's criticism of political 'vitriol' resonates with public

[ishii]

It looks like Gabby Giffords did not agree with you, at least if we look at her interview of March 2010 on MSNBC:
GIFFORDS: Community leaders, figures in our community need to say “look, we can’t stand for this.” This is a situation where — people don’t — they really need to realize that the rhetoric and firing people up and, you know, even things, for example, we’re on Sarah Palin’s targeted list. But the thing is that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district. And when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there’s consequences to that action.

TODD: But in fairness, campaign rhetoric and war rhetoric have been interchangeable for years. And so that’s — is there not, is there a line here? I understand that in the oment it may look bad, but do you really think that’s what she intended?

GIFFORDS: You know, I can’t say, I’m not Sarah Palin. But I can say that in the years that some of my colleagues have served — 20, 30 years — they’ve never seen it like this

There is no evidence that this nut job was remotely influenced by Sarah Palin. What we have here is a case of Democrats upset that they lost so badly in the midterms and they are looking for payback. Thing weren’t better 20 or 30 years ago. There were nutjobs back then too who shot presidents, leaders, congressmen. Remember John Hinckley? Sirhan Sirhan? Was the “level of discourse” more civil in the '60’s than it is now? Sadly, there will always be nut cases who try to assasinate politicians. The difference now is that the left seeks to exploit the tragedy to score cheap political points. The side story of this terrible tragic event is the shameful behavior of the left.

Ishii

 

[ishii]

I bet I can show you up to six instances where libs have jumped the gun on tragic events and blamed them on conservatives(and were wrong) within 24 hours.

Can you show me half a dozen where conservatives have done the same thing to libs?

It is my opinion that your opinion of my opinion is malarkey as well. See how that works?

I asked for examples from an earlier post by Rich Olzsewski and got no answers at all. The silence is telling and the fact is there is no comparison. It is the left that shamelessly exploits tragedies to score political points. This action by the left is, as George Will said, a ***“McCarthyism of the left, devoid of intellectual content, unsupported by data… not an idea but a tactic for avoiding engagement with ideas.” *** There you have it, the modern left = McCarthyism. Fortunately, I think fewer and fewer people actually listen to those on the left so their effect is minimal.

Ishii

 

[sidbrown]

There is no evidence that this nut job was remotely influenced by Sarah Palin. What we have here is a case of Democrats upset that they lost so badly in the midterms and they are looking for payback. Thing weren’t better 20 or 30 years ago. There were nutjobs back then too who shot presidents, leaders, congressmen. Remember John Hinckley? Sirhan Sirhan? Was the “level of discourse” more civil in the '60’s than it is now? Sadly, there will always be nut cases who try to assasinate politicians. The difference now is that the left seeks to exploit the tragedy to score cheap political points. The side story of this terrible tragic event is the shameful behavior of the left.

Ishii

Gifford’s interview occurred in March 2010, several months before the assassination attempt on her. I don’t see how anyone could credibly label her interview shameful.

 

[ishii]

Gifford’s interview occurred in March 2010, several months before the assassination attempt on her. I don’t see how anyone could credibly label her interview shameful.

I am not referring to Giggord but the actions of the left after the shooting.

 

[sidbrown]

I am not referring to Giggord but the actions of the left after the shooting.

In your post of #174, there is a reference to my post where she is quoted from the interview. She herself mentioned the crosshairs of a gunsight in the Palin ad. This was several months before the shootings.

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

In your post of #174, there is a reference to my post where she is quoted from the interview. She herself mentioned the crosshairs of a gunsight in the Palin ad. This was several months before the shootings.

Democrats ALSO used the exact same imagery and words.

Funny how that gets left out from anyone on the left.

Targeting and bullseye have been used forever…

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

This sheriff is a disgrace.

 

[FightingFat]

Does anyone see the previous and this Pope’s warnings about faith and reason echoed in this terrible incident?

 

[bbarrick8383]

In your post of #174, there is a reference to my post where she is quoted from the interview. She herself mentioned the crosshairs of a gunsight in the Palin ad. This was several months before the shootings.

Do you have some sort of evidence they are related?

I’m not sure I understand where you are coming from with this.

 

[He_Man]

It looks like Gabby Giffords did not agree with you, at least if we look at her interview of March 2010 on MSNBC:
GIFFORDS: Community leaders, figures in our community need to say “look, we can’t stand for this.” This is a situation where — people don’t — they really need to realize that the rhetoric and firing people up and, you know, even things, for example, we’re on Sarah Palin’s targeted list. But the thing is that the way that she has it depicted has the crosshairs of a gunsight over our district. And when people do that, they’ve gotta realize there’s consequences to that action.

TODD: But in fairness, campaign rhetoric and war rhetoric have been interchangeable for years. And so that’s — is there not, is there a line here? I understand that in the oment it may look bad, but do you really think that’s what she intended?

GIFFORDS: You know, I can’t say, I’m not Sarah Palin. But I can say that in the years that some of my colleagues have served — 20, 30 years — they’ve never seen it like this

You’d have a point if she’d shot herself, or if there was ANY ecidence Laughner had been influenced by Palin.

Do you have some evidence that they are linked, or are you just making things up again? I can arboitrarily link her murders to pro-gun Democrats too, but it would be just as meaningless.

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

You’d have a point if she’d shot herself, or if there was ANY evidence Laughner had been influenced by Palin.

Do you have some evidence that they are linked, or are you just making things up again? I can arboitrarily link her murders to pro-gun Democrats too, but it would be just as meaningless.

Since Democrats were ‘targeting’ the congresswoman with “bullseyes” in the primary…

Why aren’t they blaming their own party?

 

[shockerfan]

The sheriff would be wise to spend more time doing his job, and perhaps less whining about people who have different political opinions. His very one sided view of “vitriol” makes him look like he is just campaigning for a job with MSNBC.

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

The sheriff would be wise to spend more time doing his job, and perhaps less whining about people who have different political opinions. His very one sided view of “vitriol” makes him look like he is just campaigning for a job with MSNBC.

Yesterday I heard lawyers on the radio saying he is actually helping the defense of this murderer.
It will be a death penalty case and what better way to lighten the sentence (life in prison) then by pointing to the sheriff’s own words as an excuse.

 

[Tigg]

They are shameful… and thankfully… clear thinking people can see once again… what the left is all about.

We can only hope. I found one poll on a left wing blog for readers to vote as to how much blame the Tea Party should shoulder from this tragedy.

What a golden opportunity they have and of course, will capitalize on it to the fullest to shut down their political foes while taking attention completely away from the victims.

 

[Teelynn]

I find this politicizing of an extremely tragic event not only callous and totally shameful, but very sad that some are shallow and unfeeling enough to try to capitalize on it for their own political gain. It’s narcissism at it’s finest. When we should be mourning and praying for the families that have been devastated by this horror, instead we’re arguing over left/ right blame. On the one hand, being totally in opposition with the policies of this President, I think he has handled this particular tragedy beautifully. He is to be commended. I do wish at some point he would make a statement about the vileness of politicizing such a tragedy.

Makes one want to shout from the rooftops…STOP IT!!!

 

[SamH]

Yesterday I heard lawyers on the radio saying he is actually helping the defense of this murderer.
It will be a death penalty case and what better way to lighten the sentence (life in prison) then by pointing to the sheriff’s own words as an excuse.

Of course he is. The chief investigating officer is stating a motive that is related to mental impairment, why wouldn’t a defense seize on the issue?

In Clarence Dupnik’s interview he admitted he had no evidense to support his claim but essentially said they’d find it - while didn’t appear to matter if it actually existed or not - it will be produced.

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

Of course he is. The chief investigating officer is stating a motive that is related to mental impairment, why wouldn’t a defense seize on the issue?

In Clarence Dupnik’s interview he admitted he had no evidence to support his claim but essentially said they’d find it - while didn’t appear to matter if it actually existed or not - it will be produced.

Exactly… he will mess with the investigation to insure it fits the narrative he wants.

Its now out there too that this kid made death threats to the police. Why wasnt this guy arrested before? That would have at least prevented him from buying a gun.

 

[Stjudeprayforus]

“We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”
-Ronald Reagan

 

[Scott_Lafrance]

“We must reject the idea that every time a law’s broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions.”
-Ronald Reagan

Exactly. Lets stop looking for someone beside the perpetrator to blame for this.

 

[Gift_from_God]

What do you expect when Michelle Bachman saying that she wants her supporters armed and dangerous?

What do you expect when Sharron Angle says Americans will have to resort to 2nd amendment remedies? In a developed country!

What do you expect when people vandalize congressional offices in response to health care reform?

I don’t know if this guy is far right wing, but I think he’s been manipulated by right wing talking points