SHOCK REPORT: This Week CDC Quietly Updated COVID-19 Numbers - Only 9,210

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That’s not what the cdc data is stating.

Comorbidity does not mean preexisting condition.

It means that Covid is on the death certificate as a cause of death + another comorbidity.

Covid + pneumonia doesn’t mean someone had preexisting pneumonia.

Covid + respiratory distress doesn’t mean they had preexisting respiratory distress.
 
Jeanne_S said:
6%who died ,were solely from covid.The other 94%had 2.5 preexisting comorbidities…
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That begs the question of why there is such a big loud push for hydroxychloroquine with such a small number of ‘actual’ deaths from COVID? HCQ is not known to help for cancer, heart attacks and all the other pre existing conditions that are causing the deaths according to that model. If they had been going to die anyway despite COVID, there’s no point.
 
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JSAD said:
Well. The point I am trying to make (And i feel you are reading too much into the article) is -What is a COVID death?
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That is not a point. That is a question. Maybe the question hints at a point, but I wish you would make it explicitly in form of a declarative sentence.
 
Jeanne_S said:
It has been politicized and overblown for that purpose.
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The same policies our NIH and CDC have been recommending have be carried out in other countries without it becoming a political issue. So of someone is politicizing this, it is not the CDC or the NIH.
Jeanne_S said:
The majority of deaths attributed to covid exclusively was 6% .
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This factoid has about as much relevance to public health policy as the ones that baseball color announcers come up with during a lull in the action.
 
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That’s true,the DMs have been politicizing this virus ,they jumped all over it after their sham impeachemt bombed.If you think otherwise then nothing I say will convince you
 
Jeanne_S said:
That’s true,the DMs have been politicizing this virus ,they jumped all over it after their sham impeachemt bombed.If you think otherwise then nothing I say will convince you
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Why do you think the President is promoting the use of hydroxychloroquine across the board when there is such a small number of deaths from COVID? The promotion would make sense as a blanket response to a real pandemic, but if covid is so insignificant, why has the President done this? No other countries government have taken such a step?
 
The financial buddy network? Corporate collusion? Exchanging the Presidents ‘advertizing’ power for financial support in the upcoming election?
 
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For a drug that costs pennies.? I doubt it.This drug had been used and safely for decades.
 
F_Marturana said:
People have died in the massive amounts due to this virus.
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But have they?

I have seen death certificates say such things as:

Primary Cause of death: Pneumonia
Due to: Lung cancer.

-or-

Primary Cause of death: Cerebral hemorrhage
Due to: Cerebral softening
Due to: Brain tumor

So, in these cases, what really caused the death? Not the primary causes stated, that’s for sure.

But I do wonder about some of the persons who get florid cases of Covid. If they didn’t have something like serious immunocompromise, would they have gotten Covid at all? Not everybody who is exposed gets it, and most who get it show no symptoms.

We’re naturally resistant to many things, including Covid. But if our resistance is taken away, do we need anything more than the slightest exposure to hasten our death?

Any given night on TV one will see at least three immunosuppresants advertised for conditions like rheumatoid arthritis, or psoriasis or Crohn’s. Lots of resistance being destroyed out there.
 
Maybe we should go back to 9/11 and WW2 and all such events including the Civil War and note how many would have died anyway. Historians would be awfully upset at the findings.
 
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F_Marturana said:
Now we complain about wearing a mask, and socially distancing.
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No, we mourn for all those who have lost their jobs (unemployment currently 16.9% in our city, and before the pandemic, it was around 6%), and those who have lost their businesses/livelihoods/dreams.

We mourn for farmers who have lost many of their markets for their produce and dairy because of the closing of schools and restaurants.

We mourn for those in the entertainment industry who no longer have work or any hope of work in the future (and who AREN’T big stars with millions in the bank).

We mourn for schoolchildren, teens, and college students who are trying to learn online–works for some subjects, but not for many others that require hands-on work. We mourn for their parents who are at the end of their rope working full-time (or not working if they have lost their job) and are trying to find the time and energy to teach their own children, especially difficult with children who have some kind of disability like autism or ADHD.

We mourn for churches that will close because of the loss of tithes and offerings.

We mourn for the women and children who are forced to live with abusers in a dangerous home.

We mourn for all those older folks who are lonelier than ever due to the lack of human contact.

And we mourn for those who have committed suicide out of despair and loss of all hope of ever getting “back to normal” again.
 
Peeps said:
We mourn for farmers who have lost many of their markets for their produce and dairy because of the closing of schools and restaurants.
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Much of this and other things you mentioned happened before the virus. Inverted yield curve predicted a recession. Why do you think Trump had wanted the Fed to lower interest rates last year? The Fed doesn’t lower rates unless it sees trouble ahead.
 
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ProVobis said:
Much of this and other things you mentioned happened before the virus
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So you’re saying that all those restaurants were going to close anyway?

I don’t think so.

For years, my brother has eaten out for almost every meal, and he tips well. Now he spends around $30/week on food that he makes at home.

There are a lot of folks like my brother–my husband and I probably ate out at least 4 afternoons/evenings a week–more if you count picking up a pizza or stopping for ice cream. Now we eat out once, maybe twice a week, and it’s mainly McDonald’s takeout.

I have co-workers who have not been out to eat or even done take-out since the shutdown in March.

That’s a lot of money not going to those restaurants. I think that’s more than likely the reason they are closing.

And according to the early morning AgNews two week ago, 20% of restaurants in the U.S. will close because of COVID. They did not mention the President’s economic policies in that story. And the closing of schools was one of the main reasons why farmers lost markets–and you can’t tell me that Pres. Trump was planning to close all the schools even without COVID.
 
180,000 dead would have been much more if we kept the economy going. 180,000 dead aren’t in a separate subgroup and have no effect on the economy.

Lo and behold there are businesses that shut down because the owners contracted covid and were too sick to stay open.

Our lockdown wasn’t even as severe as Italy where one could only go to the supermarket or the pharmacy. And with a printed permit.

Now they have a handful of cases a day.
 
Jeanne_S said:
Your opinion,not a fact
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Is it anyone’s opinion, except for the most Machiavellian, that people with heart murmurs, the elderly, those with asthma, etc. somehow can just die and have their life cut short without it “counting.” Yes, it is an opinion they should be counted, a pro-life opinion.
 
Peeps said:
you’re saying that all those restaurants were going to close anyway?
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People were eating more after the lockout. Not all eat in restaurants. I don’t. But that money is going to some business.
 
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