Should homosexual men be allowed to be priests?

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There is a difference from homosexual men and pedephiles.

If you worry about your son because the priest is a homosexual, there’s no real reason to be.

It only matters if the priest is a pedephile, and if you think he is, then you should take caution, but don’t be too alarmed until you’re sure.

If there is any other reason why homosexuals should not be priests, I’d love to argue.

I’m friendly with plenty of homosexuals. Some of my closest friends are homosexual.

They aren’t much different. Well, they are a little different, but different is not technically wrong, in the same way that different religions are not wrong.
 
In the immortal words of Socrates (who said, “I drank what?”)…
NO.
 
Is it a “no” because it was in the Bible?

What if this is a test, that God put it in the Bible to see how many people cannot think for themselves?

Why is it so wrong, besides the fact that it is part of the religion?
 
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Why is it so wrong, besides the fact that it is part of the religion?
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You just answered your own question. It’s part of our religion. What more do you need?
 
So you cannot make decisions of your own, of what is right and what is wrong?
 
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So you cannot make decisions of your own, of what is right and what is wrong?
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:ehh:

Heh. I could give you a detailed explanation why, but I’ve got no time for such. Why are you in a Catholic forum if you’re not even religous? People like you are the reason I left the boxtorrents forum (If I ever accidentally call you “Cypress”, you’ll know why). What difference does it make what I tell you? You’re obviously not going to listen anyway. Nobody has time for trolls or flamewars.
 
I don’t flame. I’m here to debate, if there is no room for people who are non-Christians, does that make this site racist or does that make us just unwanted?

And I’m here to listen to the question “Why?”

Too lazy to make my font pretty. :3
 
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There is a difference from homosexual men and pedephiles.
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Quite often, there is not. On a per capita basis considering heterosexuals and homosexuals as separate groups, the sexual abuse of minors is disproportionately high among homosexual men. Given that homosexuality is an aberrant mental condition, it follows nicely that it often leads to other forms of aberrant sexual behavior.

For example, one study entitled “Homosexual Parents” from Adolescence 31 (1996) showed that rates of sexual molestation by homosexual parents occured in 29% of the case studies, compared to only 0.6% by heterosexual parents.

Male-on-male sexual abuse of children accounts for about one-third of instances, even though heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals in the general population by about 20-to-1. The book The Gay Report (Summit Books, 1979) reported data that showed 73% of adult homosexuals surveyed had had sex with adolescent boys. A study in Behavior Research and Therapy found that male pedophiles who preferred male victims were sexually attracted to males of all ages. W. D. Erickson reported in Archives of Sexual Behavior 17 (1998) that 86% of male pedophiles against males described themselves as homosexual or bisexual.

The evidence of danger posed by placing homosexuals in positions of authority, especially over adolescent boys, is undeniable.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
Then I just suppose it matters the person.

If a gay man ever steps up to be a priest, then he should be allowed a chance.

Unless someone actually catches sign of him harassing young boys, or anyone, then action should be made. You can’t shun someone because of how they are. Somewhat like shunning a Muslim from being in politics.

Although, I suppose that’s a bit different percentage-wise, since only 10% of the Islam community are of the Shiites, the violent group.
 
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If a gay man ever steps up to be a priest, then he should be allowed a chance.
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Why?
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Unless someone actually catches sign of him harassing young boys, or anyone, then action should be made.
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By then, it’s too late, isn’t it?
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You can’t shun someone because of how they are. Somewhat like shunning a Muslim from being in politics.
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Nothing like shunning, nor like shunning a Muslim from being in politics. Homosexuals aren’t shunned. They are welcome in the Church under the same conditions as everyone else. The politics angle is completely irrelevant. Political positions are largely elected ones, open to anyone who meets some very minimal qualifications. The same is not true of the priesthood.

BTW, the most violence prone sect of Islam is Wahabism.

– Mark L. Chance.
 
Unless someone actually catches sign of him harassing young boys, or anyone, then action should be made.

I have a better idea. I have doubts that Bin Laden is really the one who did it, so let’s just get out of Iraq and see if he makes another move. :rolleyes:
 
On a per capita basis considering heterosexuals and homosexuals as separate groups, the sexual abuse of minors is disproportionately high among homosexual men.
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On a per capita basis considering men and women as separate groups, the sexual abuse of minors is disproportionally high among men. The disproportion here is signifcantly more remarkable than the compartively slight difference between heterosexual and homosexual men.

Heterosexual women have a slightly higher proportion of abuse than lesbians.

I’m not suggesting only lesbians should be ordained priests, however.
 
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katherine2:
On a per capita basis considering men and women as separate groups, the sexual abuse of minors is disproportionally high among men. The disproportion here is signifcantly more remarkable than the compartively slight difference between heterosexual and homosexual men.

Heterosexual women have a slightly higher proportion of abuse than lesbians.

I’m not suggesting only lesbians should be ordained priests, however.
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It’s irrelevant to keep bringing up women in this discussion since it’s impossible for them to be validly ordained.👋
 
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miguel:
It’s irrelevant to keep bringing up women in this discussion since it’s impossible for them to be validly ordained.
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Vern,

Are you embarraseed because your gender are disprpoportionately child abusers?
 
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katherine2:
Vern,

Are you embarraseed because your gender are disprpoportionately child abusers?
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Is it suprising that male homosexuals have a high rate of sexual abuse of children? They already have a proclivity for deviant behavior.
 
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katherine2:
Vern,

Are you embarraseed (sic) because your gender are disprpoportionately (sic) child abusers?
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Are you proud of the baby killing that goes on by your sex?
 
I’ve seen so much conflicting data that I don’t know what to think. I’m willing to believe that men with homosexual tendencies are more likely to sexually abuse boys. I’m also willing to believe that heterosexual men are more likey to abuse girls. But… it also seems plausable that pedophilia is independent of sexual orentation. Rape, they say, is about power and not about sex. Maybe pedophilia is similar.

In any case, I’m not going to trust data from 1979…
 
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Catholic_Mike:
I’ve seen so much conflicting data that I don’t know what to think. I’m willing to believe that men with homosexual tendencies are more likely to sexually abuse boys. I’m also willing to believe that heterosexual men are more likey to abuse girls. But… it also seems plausable that pedophilia is independent of sexual orentation. Rape, they say, is about power and not about sex. Maybe pedophilia is similar.

In any case, I’m not going to trust data from 1979…
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It all depends. There is more than one type of rapist and more than one type of pedophile… With rape there is: power, anger, sadist… and with pedophiles there is fixed and regressed… one tends to go for a certain age type and sex, the other will basically go for anything.
 
Hey when did I miss this poll?

Ok again, I do not like this poll, and I did not vote, because it fails to distinguish between those who have SSA and are chaste, and those who are ACTIVE homosexuals. The way I see it, if you are talking about ACTIVE homosexuals, then run from that like wild fire, they shouldn’t be priest. After thinking about it some more, I don’t think that men who have had a homosexual expirence, but are now chaste, shouldn’t be priest either. I mean you wouldn’t put a fromer crack addict, who is not clean, in charge of the narcotics(SP?) at a police station. Now I have a Twin brother who is struggling with SSA, and he loves God with all his heart, he is a devout Catholic, and he has a special devotion to the BVM. He has considered the priesthood, and since he has been chaste since he hit puberty, ( Yes that is a big deal, because most of the kids at my public school who are gay have had gay sex, go to gay bars, and are always making out in the hallways.) I think he would be an awsome canidate for the priesthood. He knows his faith, he does love God, and I believe that men who have SSA, who have never had a homosexual expeience, should be allowed to be priests.
 
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For the 28 people that voted yes & for the 21 people that lean toward yes I say that you need to read your Bibles. Homosexuality is a sin. We are all born sinners, but we are not bound by sin once we are baptized. Homosexuals live in sin, in disobedience to God without want to change. Many blame God for “being born gay” which is a lie. Our God, the God of love would not create someone to be bound to such sin when it is sin that He dispises.

It would be impossible for a person living in opposition to the will of God to live the will of God, it’s that simple. Jesus said “you can not get good fruit from a bad tree”, it is impossible.
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Now I think you are talking about those who are active homosexuals. I think that those who said yes were reffering to those who struggle wiht SSA, but are not ACTIVE.

God Bless.
 
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