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“Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.”
For me, this says it all.
For me, this says it all.
Nope. We ask for forgiveness.It’s hard to forgive but God never hesitates to forgive anyone who sinned against Him.
@BornInMarchIf I seem angry it’s because I’m tired of reading stories where the victim of some horrible act is told by smiling Christians “You will go to Hell if you don’t forgive your rapist” and other such nonsense.
That’s not even close to what forgiveness means. Forgiveness is a transaction, not a feeling.Forgiveness means you give up the right to hate them.
Is it ever recorded that David forgave King Saul?I’ll admit that forgiving can be hard, but if you don’t it will eat at you like acid.
Forgieness is not a feeling. Forgiveness is a decision, an act of will. But you have to decide to give up the right to hate.Zaccheus:
That’s not even close to what forgiveness means. Forgiveness is a transaction, not a feeling.Forgiveness means you give up the right to hate them.
There are many who are loved by God who aren’t not forgoven by Him. Your definition is invalid.But you have to decide to give up the right to hate.
In a transactional sense, you are right; until the sinner accepts the forgiveness that God has already decided to give, the transaction is not complete. Yet God stands absolutely ready to forgive every sin before we even ask, and perhaps, before we even fully realize it’s a sin. He has already in a sense forgiven it, because he’s willing. But yes, we must ask for it to complete the transaction. But in his inner self, he has already forgiven, whether he has the opportunity to give it to us or not.There are many who are loved by God who aren’t not forgoven by Him. Your definition is invalid.
Then there is no Hell.But in his inner self, he has already forgiven, whether he has the opportunity to give it to us or not.
Desire and action are two different things.Regardless of whether I ever complete the transaction, he stands ready to forgive.
This is extremely well-put and one of the finer things I’ve read on CAF in awhile.The answer is yes, you need to forgive them for the wrong they did. Whether they are sorry, or not sorry, or not in their right mind to even think about being sorry, or deceased and beyond being able to say sorry, does not matter. You need to forgive them anyway.
The reason you are forgiving them is that 1) God tells us to do so and 2) it is spiritually healthy to let go of grudges and forgive people and try to grow in love for them, just as Christ forgave those who tormented him. In other words, you’re forgiving the person for your own spiritual health, well-being, and growth.
However, note that forgiveness does NOT mean you have to let them back into your life if they are toxic and likely to cause you more harm. So if you have a friend who hurt your feelings and doesn’t seem sorry, you should forgive the person, which you can do internally, just thinking “I forgive them, Lord” and maybe saying a prayer for them. However, you don’t have to resume the friendship, or even see the person again. And you do not need to express your forgiveness to them in person. You can just express it internally to God.
God ofers forgiveness to all. We, each of us, will accept or reject God’s forgiveness. Those who reject God’s mercy must face His justice.Zaccheus:
There are many who are loved by God who aren’t not forgoven by Him. Your definition is invalid.But you have to decide to give up the right to hate.
Thank you for this.Not too long ago, I heard an evangelical say “forgiveness means that I give up my right to feel badly towards you”. This was golden .
He doesn’t forgive all doesn’t He? No.God ofers forgiveness to all.
Another bad definition. And when you say we will face God’s justice if we do not have His mercy is a half truth. Everyone will face God’s justice.Thank you for this.