Don’t mind my asking, how is this a “bad definition”? What’s wrong with it?Zaccheus:
Another bad definition. And when you say we will face God’s justice if we do not have His mercy is a half truth. Everyone will face God’s justice.
Should I forgive someone for something they did to hurt me even if they aren’t sorry for it?
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JoyfulTune
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Forgiveness is a choice whenever we remember Christ on the cross, we receive our small cross to forgive those who trespass against us.
If the person isn’t remorseful, he most likely will repeat his behavior. It is up to you how much ‘debts’ of his you are willing/ able to forgive if you allow him to continue to commit his offences.
How much it affects your mental health, your ability to function day to day. It is important that you can “survive”, should he repeat.
As long as we can “survive”, we try hard to continue to forgive until we die on the cross just as Jesus did, while trying to find ways to prevent as much as possible the offender continue his offences.
It depends on the nature of your relationship with this person too. Example if he is your adult son, you can ask him to move out while maintaining good communication with him. But if this person is your husband, you need to stay long term with him and work out to solve the problem.
This is what I usually do: if it is regarding small matters, let it go from your mind so you get to keep your peace. If it is big matters, make them smaller. If you cannot make the big problem smaller, then cut it off from your life, let it go from your life. Keep your peace.
Forgiveness should come with peace within yourself, regardless the other person. Sometime It takes time to discern what you should do.
If the person isn’t remorseful, he most likely will repeat his behavior. It is up to you how much ‘debts’ of his you are willing/ able to forgive if you allow him to continue to commit his offences.
How much it affects your mental health, your ability to function day to day. It is important that you can “survive”, should he repeat.
As long as we can “survive”, we try hard to continue to forgive until we die on the cross just as Jesus did, while trying to find ways to prevent as much as possible the offender continue his offences.
It depends on the nature of your relationship with this person too. Example if he is your adult son, you can ask him to move out while maintaining good communication with him. But if this person is your husband, you need to stay long term with him and work out to solve the problem.
This is what I usually do: if it is regarding small matters, let it go from your mind so you get to keep your peace. If it is big matters, make them smaller. If you cannot make the big problem smaller, then cut it off from your life, let it go from your life. Keep your peace.
Forgiveness should come with peace within yourself, regardless the other person. Sometime It takes time to discern what you should do.
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JanR
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I think the confusion lies in the misconception that forgiving someone who has done us wrong is the same as condoning their wrongdoing against us. Forgiving isn’t condoning wrongdoing. If anything, it acknowledges it. If not, there would be no reason to forgive. It’s up to the wrongdoer to right the wrong, if possible. That’s not your concern. Forgiving is lifting the burden off of yourself. It’s liberating.
That said, forgiving can be extremely difficult, especially self-forgiveness, which is the hardest of all. You need to engage God in the process. He has the power to help you achieve it.
That said, forgiving can be extremely difficult, especially self-forgiveness, which is the hardest of all. You need to engage God in the process. He has the power to help you achieve it.
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Zaccheus
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Forgiveness is a gift God offers to all. But it’s a gift; we have to choose. Those who refuse the gift do not have it.Zaccheus:
He doesn’t forgive all doesn’t He? No.
That doesn’t change the fact that God offers it.
God’s justice and God’s mercy are not incompatible, nor are they contradictory. God can be just and merciful at the same time.
But though God offers mercy to all, if we reject His gift then we don’t have the gift.
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toddy
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Forgive innocent people, friends, family.
Forgive enemy only after they surrender and bow you. Otherwise, they will hurt you more until you surrender and they would seize your land, home, assets, enslave you, took your wife; etc. Did you read all Old Testimony?
God always forgive you after you repent.
Forgive enemy only after they surrender and bow you. Otherwise, they will hurt you more until you surrender and they would seize your land, home, assets, enslave you, took your wife; etc. Did you read all Old Testimony?
God always forgive you after you repent.
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Vico
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Forgiveness is conditional upon repentance. However there should be love of your enemies.
Catechism of the Catholic Church
Luke 17
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Zaccheus
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Forgive innocent people? Why do the innocent need my forgiveness?
Forgive only after they surrender? But then I have to go on hating anybody I haven’t defeated. No. Forgive those who hurt me whether I have any power over them or not.
Forgiveness does not have to be passive. I can forgive somebody who struck me but still defend myself if they try to strike me again. Forgiveness means giving up the grudge, not lying down to be made a doormat.
God forgives after we repent?
God offers forgiveness before we repent. We have to repent if we’re going to accept God’s forgiveness.
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Marcus_Aurelius1
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God doesn’t hold grudges, but He doesn’t forgive everyone. Otherwise you are espusinh universalism.
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Marcus_Aurelius1
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Offering mercy and giving mercy are two different things.
And why should I be more merciful than my God?
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Marcus_Aurelius1
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Offering forgiveness and forgiving are two different things. God cancels debts when we ask. Do you want us to be more merciful than Him?
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Zaccheus
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God offers forgiveness to all. We, individually, choose to accept or reject that gift. Of course those who reject a gift don’t have it. But God wants to forgive all. God would have everyone saved if only everyone would accept salvation.Zaccheus:
God doesn’t hold grudges, but He doesn’t forgive everyone. Otherwise you are espusinh universalism.
The fact that some refuse doesn’t disprove that God offers it to everyone.
…Do you quesiton the honesty of God’s offer?
God holds out the gift of forgiveness to everyone. It is not that He declines to be merciful to some. It’s that some throw His gift back into His face.
“Be more merciful than God?” How do you know to choose who shall receive mercy and who shall not? You are not God, to know the hearts of men. Will you, who need mercy from God, deny it to your fellow servants? Matthew 18: 23-35, the story of the unforgiving servant.
Don’t be merciless when God has given you mercy.
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@meltzerboy2: I think apologizing for a wrong committed years ago poses the risk of reoffending the person. Maybe they’ve moved on and don’t even remember the deed.
I’d ask a priest for the best course of action.
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Marcus_Aurelius1
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Again. God’s forgiveness is contingent on repentance.
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A parable you quote out of context. The unmerciful servant is merciful becuase he refused to forgive the debt of the servant who pleaded with him. God forgives us when we ask. Why do you want people to be more merciful than God?
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Zaccheus
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God forgives us before we ask. We have to accept the gift but God offers it first.Zaccheus:
Again. God’s forgiveness is contingent on repentance.
Yes, and I said so. We have to repent if we wish to accept the forgivenes God offers us.
But Christ forgave His excecutioners while they were killing Him. We can’t look into each others’ hearts to know if our offenders repent.
Also forgiving others means we let go of the anger, and that benefits us. We forgive for our own sakes as well as theirs.
Further we are told that we must be ready to forgive others if we want God to forgive us. That’s in the Our Father – “Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us”.
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A parable you quote out of context. The unmerciful servant is merciful becuase he refused to forgive the debt of the servant who pleaded with him. God forgives us when we ask. Why do you want people to be more merciful than God?
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matjam
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Ill-treated and afflicted, he never opened his mouth, like a lamb led to the slaughter-house, like a sheep dumb before its shearers he never opened his mouth.
Isiah 53:7
Isiah 53:7
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poche
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If you forgive others their sins against you then your sins will be forgiven.
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umamibella
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Yes, no matter how uncharitable or non christian their behaviour is or becomes. Forgiveness is for ourselves as much as it is for the other person.
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Marcus_Aurelius1
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No.
“Repent so your sins maybe wiped away and God may send on you times of refreshment.”
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Marcus_Aurelius1
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We must forgive the way God forgives us. And God forgives WHEN WE ASK.
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Zaccheus
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God is not limited by time as we are. I have to repent if I’m to accept God’s forgiveness but God can forgive first.Zaccheus:
No.
“Repent so your sins maybe wiped away and God may send on you times of refreshment.”
God forgives before we ask. Romans 5: 8. While we were still sinners Christ died for us.
We have to repent in order to accept forgiveness, but God acts first.
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