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ProVobis
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What? No lockup for her?
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Oh, you mean like the fascistic Antifa, and the anti-semitic BDSers, and the authoritarian socialists, and the racist BLM.JonNC:
Forbidden? Of course not. They can tell about their views as much as they want to. Just like Steve King can spread his white supremacist views. Just like Trump can say that there are “good people on BOTH sides” in Charlottesville. Just like any neo-Nazi can express their views. Just like the KKK is allowed to spread their hateful messages. Of course we (the opposition) can express our disdain and our utter disgust to have such people in the US.
Well, at least you have something to be “thankful” about.
Yeah, like that.
Yes, I do have something to be thankful for. Liberty, freedom of speech, and a constitution that protects these rights, even though those rights remain under progressive attack.
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QwertyGirl
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Oh, I am pretty sure he’s been a liar his whole life.
If they truly believe in liberty, they may attack the content, but never the right to express it. The left is in the process of attacking the right to speech. One can see this on college campuses, as an example.
Let’s see. Wearing black shirts and masks. Using violence to shut down free speech. These are tactics right our of the fascist playbook. They are in actions and appearance, fascists by definition.
The actual liberal fascists are the descendants of the progressive era - Wilson, Dewey, Sanger, Mussolini. True liberals do not try to shut down free speech, but progressives do. True liberals do not try to undermine due-process, but progressives in Congress have been trying to for a number of years now.
Obama? Agreed.JonNC:
Oh, I am pretty sure he’s been a liar his whole life.
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gracepoole
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I’m not sure I agree with you there.ChuckB:
No, I’d bet $20 Rush will not do what you say. You must not listen to Rush. No way will he say such.
Trump Blows Up the DACA Deal with One Question
RUSH: Donald Trump blew up a Democrat dream of amnesty for DREAMers. With one question, with one word, he blew it sky high, and with that question, he refocused the nation's look at immigration, legal and otherwise.
www.rushlimbaugh.com
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ColorMomma
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The American voters did not choose him to be our president. Trump had 2.8 million fewer votes than his opponent. He won because of the Electoral College.
Other than the pro-life judges on the Supreme Court, I think his presidency is a disgrace to our country. I am amazed that other Catholics think that he is a moral person. Other than the pro-life issue, I feel he is the worst president we’ve ever had.
Other than the pro-life judges on the Supreme Court, I think his presidency is a disgrace to our country. I am amazed that other Catholics think that he is a moral person. Other than the pro-life issue, I feel he is the worst president we’ve ever had.
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QwertyGirl
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We get it. You hate Obama and love Trump.
I find your value system in this regard strange. But you are entitled to whatever you believe, just as I am.
Not interested in debating the virtue of politicians with you here. Believe what you want to believe.
Muting this thread, now.
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ProVobis
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McConnell is the one to thank for changing the rules to accommodate Trump. All legal of course but the Dems will get same opportunity some day.
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When did I say either? You come out with a statement about Trump. I didn’t even dispute the point. I just said it wasn’t helpful in the conversation, and that it simply made him a politician like Obama. I don’t hate either since I don’t know either. So, I’ll thank you not to put words in my mouth.
You do not know my value system in this regard.
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Dr_Meinheimer
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Among the Catholics on here, the only folks who rail on Trump and tell you who they voted for are generally the 3rd party voters.
The rest, which is the majority, claim some sacred right to keep that information private on an anonymous message board, despite the boards being rife with details about people’s marital issues, over active scruples, or problems with pornography.
But asking who I voted for? No that is a bit too personal, TYVM.
The rest, which is the majority, claim some sacred right to keep that information private on an anonymous message board, despite the boards being rife with details about people’s marital issues, over active scruples, or problems with pornography.
But asking who I voted for? No that is a bit too personal, TYVM.
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And the Electoral College is the way the American voters, through their states, choose the president.
Trump won 30 of the popular votes in November, 2016. Clinton won 21.
Other than his judicial nominees, his presidency had been, on balance, a pleasant surprise regarding policy. That doesn’t change his rather disturbing personal character.
The worst president was Wilson.
True. The same seems to be unsayable for progressives.
Actually, there are true liberals. One can find them. They believe individual rights trump government power.
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Calling the Electoral College votes “popular votes” does not make it so. It seems you have a penchant for redefining terms to suit your narrative, such as you have done with “true liberal.” Nobody is falling for it.ColorMomma:
And the Electoral College is the way the American voters, through their states, choose the president.
Trump won 30 of the popular votes in November, 2016. Clinton won 21.
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ColorMomma
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I voted for my favorite deacon. Neither choice for president was acceptable. Both parties need to put forth better candidates. Honestly, the GOP should have gotten rid of Trump in the primaries. He never should have made it to the general election. I would have voted for most of the other Republican candidates. It seems as if we can only go up from here.
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Dr_Meinheimer
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Thanks for sharing. I was going to vote for my Deacon, but wasn’t sure how USSC justices he would be able to appoint, so I balked.
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Don’t underestimate the pull of McConnell. I’ll take your Deacon. 
Though technically we didn’t vote for Clinton or Trump but a cast of characters who were initially pledged to cast their votes for them.
Though technically we didn’t vote for Clinton or Trump but a cast of characters who were initially pledged to cast their votes for them.
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I’m proud to say I voted for Trump. Why? Because Hillary was just…bad news for a host of reasons. If she had been elected, the Democratic primary system with its super-delegates, etc. would not have been touched. Nothing would have changed.
But Trump!!! As you may or may not know, the Democrats basically got rid of the super-delegates (they’re not allowed to vote in the first round). We have a host of new, young, passionate representatives. The party machine is no longer in control (no finger on the scale like with our good friend Donna Brazile).
And on the other side? Here’s what I predicted in 2016: Trump would destroy the Republican Party for two generations. His crazier ideas would be stopped either by the courts or the Senate (and now, of course, by the House). They have been stopped. And it’s all coming true, just as predicted. Republicans have had to choose: sell out their consciences for 40 pieces of silver, or stand up for truth and justice and lose primaries. Most have sold out. A lot, as we know, simply packed it in. And the extremists (i.e., Trump supporters) who win the Republican primaries are going down to defeat–they did in 2018, and they will in 2020 in the Senate and House. The only cloud on the horizon is the Democrats who think it’s a great idea to run a candidate in their 70s or 80s and/or a candidate from the East Coast. Both are losing moves, and hopefully they will come to their senses. We’ll see.
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Was able to download the new tax forms today. I guess they weren’t kidding about doing them on postcards. In my case I have seven postcards to mail in now. No war on paper here.
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