Some Christians Still Denounce Harry Potter as Dangerous

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“Reject?”. No. That is a strong word. Question? Yes.

Harry Potter has been around for over 13 years now, and is one of the most read series of all time. How many exorcisms have the experts directly linked to the reading of the series? It would seem to me that they would have much more than opinion to back up their and your claim. Out of the millions of readers, how many?
Just how many Exorcisms have you read the documentation-and what was the doorway for the Demons’ entry?

Out of the tens of thousands of Exorcisms-how many are you familiar with?

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
The protestant Church I grew up in was very strict, so much so that Irish and Dawns opinion on this topic reminds me of many of the elder members of the Church.

They believed that if the new testament did not talk about it, then don’t do it. Such as musical instruments in the Church. They didn’t even allow them for weddings. No radios or anything.

When I became a young teenager and we had our first school dance, my mother noticed that I was acting a little strange. When she approached me about it, I told her about the dance but I was afraid to ask her about it because I didn’t want the people at Church find out that I had been dancing with a girl.

These were decent people, just religiously strict people. So much so I was afraid to ask my own mother if I could attend a dance.

Me and the other children there went to Church camp almost every single year. Most of us attended services twice a day on Sunday and Wednesday nights.

I don’t know of any of my young friends that still go to that Church, which is very popular in the mid-west. Some of them turned to drugs and partying, others lead decent lives but do not go to Church at all.

Irish, your opinion on these books is absolutely fine. But you should be careful how you project your opinion, because it could do more harm than the HP books ever will.

Otherwise you will just sell more HP books.

It’s like telling a child not to put their finger in the light socket, many of them will do it anyway.
 
Father was very precise, you want more precision than I must suggest that you contact him (if possible). You are questioning my precision when I have posted the Father’s statement, which clearly applies to the the HP books and movies.

The subject at hand is HP, not other sources.
I appreciate that you brought forth the quotation. It is relevant and helpful.

But I have offered you reason to read his words to mean that his concern is broader than just Harry Potter. What he is concerned about is present within Harry Potter, it is present within Twilight, and it may be present within a thousand times a thousand other books.

Further, I may well contact him. 👍
 
The protestant Church I grew up in was very strict, so much so that Irish and Dawns opinion on this topic reminds me of many of the elder members of the Church.

They believed that if the new testament did not talk about it, then don’t do it. Such as musical instruments in the Church. They didn’t even allow them for weddings. No radios or anything.

When I became a young teenager and we had our first school dance, my mother noticed that I was acting a little strange. When she approached me about it, I told her about the dance but I was afraid to ask her about it because I didn’t want the people at Church find out that I had been dancing with a girl.

These were decent people, just religiously strict people. So much so I was afraid to ask my own mother if I could attend a dance.

Me and the other children there went to Church camp almost every single year. Most of us attended services twice a day on Sunday and Wednesday nights.

I don’t know of any of my young friends that still go to that Church, which is very popular in the mid-west. Some of them turned to drugs and partying, others lead decent lives but do not go to Church at all.

Irish, your opinion on these books is absolutely fine. But you should be careful how you project your opinion, because it could do more harm than the HP books ever will.

Otherwise you will just sell more HP books.

It’s like telling a child not to put their finger in the light socket, many of them will do it anyway.
We have quoted Powerful Exorcists in the Catholic Church.

Even the Pope himself.

Not (just) our opinions-which by the way are based upon said Exorcists, our Beloved Pope and other Church Writings.

We are obedient when it comes to Faith & Morals.

Serious, Practicing Catholics, we are.

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
We have quoted Powerful Exorcists in the Catholic Church.

Even the Pope himself.

Not (just) our opinions-which by the way are based upon said Exorcists, our Beloved Pope and other Church Writings.

We are obedient when it comes to Faith & Morals.

Serious, Practicing Catholics, we are.

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
That’s fine, I have no problem with your beliefs.

I’m just saying, be careful how you project them. It may cause more harm than what you are opposed to.

For instance, had the religious community come out and said oh the Davinci Code is a great piece of fiction. Dan Brown would be Dan who? To many people.
 
Priests will soon be ‘inundated’ with exorcism requests, asserts author

…due to an increased exposure of young people to the occult, priests within the next decade are going to be “inundated” with exorcism requests…

…Fr. Euteneuer asserted that “priests are going to be inundated in the next decade or so at least with requests for exorcism because I can already see it happening now where the younger generations especially have been affected by a lot of hard and soft occultism.”…

…he explained, adding that “**Harry Potter contributes to that with over 400 million books being sold.” The popular book series, he claimed, has helped educate “younger generations in the language and the symbolism of the occult.” **

Although many young people have treated the books merely as “entertainment,” he observed, “it actually leads them more deeply into occult practices.”…

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
I see Patrick Madrid recently posted on his blog warning against HP as well. Anyway someone inferred Remorseless torture was practiced by HP. Cam anyone shed some light?
 
That’s fine, I have no problem with your beliefs.

I’m just saying, be careful how you project them. It may cause more harm than what you are opposed to.

For instance, had the religious community come out and said oh the Davinci Code is a great piece of fiction. Dan Brown would be Dan who? To many people.
I will not. I will shout it from the Rooftops!

I backed everything I wrote up with Exorcists, Pope John Paul II & Benedict XVI, and Early Fathers’ writing. Even exposing the books and toys for the Occult they contain.

Harm? Seriously. I want to harm Satan’s Snare, that’s for sure. Souls are at stake!

I don’t talk about DaVinci. You go ahead. (Do you have me mixed up with someone else, perhaps?)

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
That’s fine, I have no problem with your beliefs.

I’m just saying, be careful how you project them. It may cause more harm than what you are opposed to.

For instance, had the religious community come out and said oh the Davinci Code is a great piece of fiction. Dan Brown would be Dan who? To many people.
Hmmm so we should keep quiet? I disagree. Ok so the world will mock but if we believe something is seriously wrong we have a duty or at least a right to air our concern. Charitably but firmly. Peace. Btw if I called dan brown a great piece of fiction I’d be lying 😃
 
I will not. I will shout it from the Rooftops!

I backed everything I wrote up with Exorcists, Pope John Paul II & Benedict XVI, and Early Fathers’ writing. Even exposing the books and toys for the Occult they contain.

Harm? Seriously. I want to harm Satan’s Snare, that’s for sure. Souls are at stake!

I don’t talk about DaVinci. You go ahead. (Do you have me mixed up with someone else, perhaps?)

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
But what I’m trying to explain to you Dawn, is that many of the people you are shouting to have no clue, nor do many of them believe in exorcism, or many of the other things the Catholic Church teaches.

It’s like someone who speaks a different dialect of English. Not everyone is Catholic. For me, growing up the way I did, when you tell me and Exorcist said something, you might as well have said Santa Clause said it. It just doesn’t compute to me the way it does with someone whose been a Catholic their whole life.

So you, with your intentions to do good. Could actually push people away.
 
…he explained, adding that “**Harry Potter contributes to that with over 400 million books being sold.” The popular book series, he claimed, has helped educate “younger generations in the language and the symbolism of the occult.” **
Curious, imagine in a Catholic (anti-occult), adult educational setting. Would you be against a book that enables faithful Catholics to identify occult symbolism (e.g., Masonic symbols), so that we may be aware of it when it’s actually used?
 
=irishpatrick;7287402]“The more I read the books, the more I realized how spiritually dangerous the material is,” he said. “Even though it’s fiction there is a lot of reality woven in it. My warning is that Harry Potter is a major contributor to Wicca."
christianpost.com/article/20101119/some-christians-still-denounce-harry-potter-as-dangerous/
DOES HP beleive in God? NO!

Is God even a thought in HP movies? NO!

So if God is not credited for these “POWERS” Who and WHAT is:eek:

Satan is the Master of Discise and the Father of Lies… Go figure!

Love and prayers,
Pat
 
Hmmm so we should keep quiet? I disagree. Ok so the world will mock but if we believe something is seriously wrong we have a duty or at least a right to air our concern. Charitably but firmly. Peace. Btw if I called dan brown a great piece of fiction I’d be lying 😃
No, I’m not saying keep quiet at all.

Let’s say, me and you bump into each other at a book store. The display in front of us has The Davinci Code which just hit the shelves. I ask for your opinion on the book and you give me a blatantly biased response because of your Catholic faith. Odds are, I’m going to ask someone else or buy that book and find out myself. Your opinion did me absolutely no good with your response.

Now had you given me at least a half hearted response based on your knowledge of the author, or a review of the book and kept your bias to yourself but kept the response negative. I wouldn’t have bought it.

BTW, I bought and read The DaVinci Code, mainly because of the hype about it. I thought it was very good. Like I said earlier it brought me to want to learn more about Catholicism.
 
But what I’m trying to explain to you Dawn, is that many of the people you are shouting to have no clue, nor do many of them believe in exorcism, or many of the other things the Catholic Church teaches.

It’s like someone who speaks a different dialect of English. Not everyone is Catholic. For me, growing up the way I did, when you tell me and Exorcist said something, you might as well have said Santa Clause said it. It just doesn’t compute to me the way it does with someone whose been a Catholic their whole life.

So you, with your intentions to do good. Could actually push people away.
This is ~exactly~ the problem within the Church today (in some places).

You couldn’t have said it any better!
Withholding the Truth
in order not to step on toes!!!
(At such a cost! What is the worth of one soul?!)

Not everyone is Catholic, you write. Well, this is a Catholic Forum. If they are here, they are here to learn about Catholicism (read the rules).

Now you know. Harry Potter is a doorway to the Occult. Children are most vulnerable.

Push, Push.
“Get to Confession and amend your life,” says I.

Practice your Faith and not the Occult.

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
Withholding the Truth in order not to step on toes!!!
Presentation of the truth does not have to mean withholding the truth.

Tell most people HP is bad because an exorcist told you so, is not the wisest way to put it.

I think it should be pointed out, but not totally condemned. Total condemnation is going to make it more popular.
 
“The more I read the books, the more I realized how spiritually dangerous the material is,” he said. “Even though it’s fiction there is a lot of reality woven in it. My warning is that Harry Potter is a major contributor to Wicca."
christianpost.com/article/20101119/some-christians-still-denounce-harry-potter-as-dangerous/
The further one reads into the books the more elements of Wicca are actually incorporated… Starting as a relatively nice story the books become increasingly darker towards the end of the series…
 
Says you. I’ll ask again: Are you a Troll?

How do you know I wasn’t down at the bookstore at Midnight with our kids-when the books became available?

How do you know we didn’t sit there and read them-for school-in the evenings before bed?

Where do you get these contrive remarks you put out?

You need to read back through the posts and learn what your Pope has stated.
Flailing. Coherent.

No coherent points? Maybe quoting the Pope and Exorcists is just over some peoples’ ability to understand. In those cases, because this deals with Faith & Morals, they should accept the teaching of Church Authorities-and let it go at that.

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
Presentation of the truth does not have to mean withholding the truth.

Tell most people HP is bad because an exorcist told you so, is not the wisest way to put it.

I think it should be pointed out, but not totally condemned. Total condemnation is going to make it more popular.
You’re touching on my earlier point, which is, “Hey, let’s figure out what exactly the exorcists dislike about Harry Potter.” That way we can warn people of dangers using reason, not just appeals to authority.
 
And? There you have it.

God Bless you.
+Jesus, I Trust In You!
Love, Dawn
 
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