Watch it:tsktsk: Maybe John the Babtist will help convert them
I hope this doesn’t mean you think Popes never make mistakes.
Unfortunately JPII didn’t say that!Watch it:tsktsk: Maybe John the Babtist will help convert them
And you think that Peter and his successors can be heretics?
“The Church has received this solemn mandate of Christ to proclaim the saving truth from the apostles and must carry it out to the very ends of the earth. Wherefore she makes the words of the Apostle her own: “Woe to me, if I do not preach the Gospel”, and continues unceasingly to send heralds of the Gospel until such time as the infant churches are fully established and can themselves continue the work of evangelizing. For the Church is compelled by the Holy Spirit to do her part that God’s plan may be fully realized, whereby He has constituted Christ as the source of salvation for the whole world. By the proclamation of the Gospel she prepares her hearers to receive and profess the faith. She gives them the dispositions necessary for baptism, snatches them from the slavery of error and of idols and incorporates them in Christ so that through charity they may grow up into full maturity in Christ. Through her work, whatever good is in the minds and hearts of men, whatever good lies latent in the religious practices and cultures of diverse peoples, is not only saved from destruction but is also cleansed, raised up and perfected unto the glory of God, the confusion of the devil and the happiness of man. The obligation of spreading the faith is imposed on every disciple of Christ, according to his state.” (Lumen Gentium)
Do you know any Church history?
Nonsense!
…and this has what to do with Steven Tyler honoring JPII?
Rad trad rubbish, intended to cast doubts on the part of the faithful in their Shepherds and the Second Vatican Council. They promoted no novelty, as much of the liturgical modifications were supposed to harken back to the earliest Church, though I’m certain it does no good to explain that to you, who most likely thinks the Church started with Trent, who probably buys into the Bugnini “conspiracy,” etc. You confuse the council with the “spirit” of the council. Granted, we need a “reform of the reform,” esp. in this country, but not an abbrogation of the Council. And I should be careful laying error at the feet of these popes, since you’ve never carried the burden of the Church. Yes, Peter can be rebuked to his face, but by no less than a Paul, not you or Marian Horvat.
"But the Church, to whom this truth has been entrusted, must go out to meet their desire, so as to bring them the truth. Because she believes in God’s universal plan of salvation, the Church must be missionary”. Inter-religious dialogue, therefore, as part of her evangelizing mission, is just one of the actions of the Church in her mission ad gentes. Equality, which is a presupposition of inter-religious dialogue, refers to the equal personal dignity of the parties in dialogue, not to doctrinal content, nor even less to the position of Jesus Christ — who is God himself made man — in relation to the founders of the other religions. Indeed, the Church, guided by charity and respect for freedom, must be primarily committed to proclaiming to all people the truth definitively revealed by the Lord, and to announcing the necessity of conversion to Jesus Christ and of adherence to the Church through Baptism and the other sacraments, in order to participate fully in communion with God, the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. " (Dominus Iesus)
You ask this question of Sarah Jane, yet I would ask it of you. None of the scandalous popes altered the dogma of the Church. They weren’t heretics, they were reprobates. If a Pope can, as Pope, teach heresy, then Christ’s promise has indeed failed.
What ON EARTH does this rad-trad mumbo jumbo have to do with Brittney Spears and Steven Tyler or the pope’s tribute?!?!? If you prefer to profane the memory of our beloved John Paul II, or if you have a beef with Vatican II, or if you have a beef with St. John the Baptist interceding for Muslims, then perhaps you should start a different thread on a different forum.
Me too I apologise for the hijack
Ditto…
Anyone who reads the encyclicals of John Paul II knows he was teaching Catholicism!