Study the Qur’an?

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**The Nicene Creed

I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.

**
 
So, how could a mere mortal Man say this…

**Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man

and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my

blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.For my flesh is real

food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood

remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because

of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the

bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but

whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”**
 
Techno2000 said:
“It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.” John 6:63

The **flesh **(Human Reason ) is of no avail in trying to understand Supernatural spiritual things like the Trinity and the Eucharist .
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Hang on a minute Mr Techno

Hold your horses. Since when did the word FLESH mean HUMAN REASON?

You see, this is how errors begin…

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Servant19 said:
Hang on a minute Mr Techno

Hold your horses. Since when did the word FLESH mean HUMAN REASON?

You see, this is how errors begin…

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For we know that the law is spiritual, but** I am of the flesh**, sold under sin. 15 For** I do not understand my own actions. **

Romans 7:14–24

For what the flesh wants is opposed to the Spirit, and what the** Spirit wants is opposed to the flesh.** They are opposed to each other, and so you do not do what you want to do.

Galatians 5:17
 
Techno2000 said:
So, how could a mere mortal Man say this…

**Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man

and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my

blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.For my flesh is real

food and my blood is real drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood

remains in me, and I in them. Just as the living Father sent me and I live because

of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. This is the

bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but

whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.”**
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That’s clearly speaking about spiritual food. I don’t think Christ was referring to cannibalism.
 
Servant19 said:
Hang on a minute Mr Techno

Hold your horses. Since when did the word FLESH mean HUMAN REASON?

You see, this is how errors begin…

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John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me, with me in him, bears fruit in plenty; for cut off from me you can do nothing.”

Errors begin when people speak in half truths of Christ
 
JimmyDFG said:
Errors begin when people speak in half truths of Christ
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An accusation that echo’s from the beginning of time.

One has to look for.the Oneness of God and then these accusations are not needed.

God bless and regards Tony
 
JimmyDFG said:
John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me, with me in him, bears fruit in plenty; for cut off from me you can do nothing.”

Errors begin when people speak in half truths of Christ
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Of course if we find any errors in Bahaism or Islam… we are just misunderstanding it .
 
Techno2000 said:
Of course if we find any errors in Bahaism or Islam… we are just misunderstanding it .
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The Vine of God is one the Branches are Many 😉

One may wish to prune some of the Branches, but they just grow stronger and Bare more Fruit 👍

Regards Tony
 
TonyBS said:
It is the optimism of the Old Testament
It is the optimism of the New Testament
It is the optimism of the Koran
It is Fulfilled in the Baha’i Writings 😃 👍 😉

Regards Tony
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“But Jesus, who in this vision informed me of all that is needed by me, answered with these words and said: ‘It was necessary that there should be sin; but all shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of thing shall be well.'

Julian of Norwich
 
No!! I just tried to say that Christ by saying to eat His body and drink His blood was not referring to cannibalism but He meant to saturate our lives with His teachings and become new people.

The Eucharist is not cannibalism. Christians do it in remembrance of Christ as an act of reverence.
 
JimmyDFG said:
John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me, with me in him, bears fruit in plenty; for cut off from me you can do nothing.”

Errors begin when people speak in half truths of Christ
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Hi Jimmy,

This is absolute truth. When we cut ourselves off from God’s guidance we can do nothing. But as humans err and do fall into error and do cut themselves off and eventually stary that is why Christ must return to gather His flock back to God, as humanity has strayed far away from God.

The Books were ‘sealed’ until the time othe end so not anyone knows the true meaning of some passages until they are unsealed by Christ’s Coming.
 
worldcitizen said:
No!! I just tried to say that Christ by saying to eat His body and drink His blood was not referring to cannibalism but He meant to saturate our lives with His teachings and become new people.

The Eucharist is not cannibalism. Christians do it in remembrance of Christ as an act of reverence.
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“It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.” John 6:63
 
Yes I understand it is a recent act. And I fully respect that. It’s a mystical experience though. That’s all I meant.
 
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