Study the Qur’an?

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“It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.” John 6:63
Yet “Bare in mind for us it is of course the body and blood of Christ”.

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It is a spiritual experience 😉

Regards Tony
 
Yet “Bare in mind for us it is of course the body and blood of Christ”.

then

It is a spiritual experience 😉

Regards Tony
Transubstantiation is a Supernatural spiritual thing that God does in the realm of the spirit world that the flesh cannot understand .
 
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Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee SUPERIOR to those who reject faith, TO THE DAY OF RESURRECTION: Then shall ye all return unto Me, and I will judge between you of the matters wherein ye dispute." S. 3:55

O ye who believe! Be ye helpers of Allah: as said Jesus the son of Mary to the Disciples, "Who will be my helpers to (the work of) Allah?" Said the Disciples, "We are Allah's helpers!" then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved: But We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, AND THEY BECAME THE ONES THAT PREVAILED. S. 61:14
61:6 And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: “O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.” But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, “this is evident sorcery!” 😉

Regards Tony
What are the Bible verses that the Qur’an uses? Official statements from Islam?

The names of thess believers who followed Jesus, who noted such words by Jesus please.

Part answers without analysis from where it’s taken aren’t answers. 🙂

MJ ,
 
For we know that the law is spiritual, but** I am of the flesh**, sold under sin. 15 For** I do not understand my own actions. **

Romans 7:14–24

For what the flesh wants is opposed to the Spirit, and what the** Spirit wants is opposed to the flesh.** They are opposed to each other, and so you do not do what you want to do.

Galatians 5:17
Yes very much true

They are opposed to each other, but where does HUMAN REASON come into this???

What a massive leap and assumption that it comes from the flesh.
When Thomas Aquinas states “Come, let us reason together” he must’ve been very fleshly thinking then right?

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John 15:5 “I am the vine, you are the branches. Whoever remains in me, with me in him, bears fruit in plenty; for cut off from me you can do nothing.”

Errors begin when people speak in half truths of Christ
Show me a Truth that Thomas Aquinas would agree with here…

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What are the Bible verses that the Qur’an uses? Official statements from Islam?

The names of these believers who followed Jesus, who noted such words by Jesus please.

Part answers without analysis from where it’s taken aren’t answers. 🙂

MJ ,
If you are after official answers from Islam, then It is not for me to provide. I just offer the perspective of One God, His One Faith, and His purpose of One Humanity as Taught by Christ and Muhammad and then recently expounded by Baha’u’llah.

This is in the Koran and the Bible if one puts the Oneness of God in the Heart then only looks for it 😉

God Bless and Regards Tony
 
Of course if we find any errors in Bahaism or Islam… we are just misunderstanding it .
Of course, we EXPLAIN the error and provide good reasoning and logic in our responses.

Somethimes I wonder if the answer to all hard questions here is:
“But I am not surprised! Even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light. 2 Corinthians 11:14”

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You’re getting closer …👍
That makes me very happy because I want to be your brother and if I’m getting close then that’s a cause for joy.

Techno you have a pure heart and are sincere. Never let anyone take away your love for Jesus because the more you love Him the more He blesses you.

Whatever people say, NEVER stray from Jesus because people are WRONG. Look at the wars and hatred in the world. If they truly followed Jesus would they be hating on each other?

Jesus said to love thy neighbor but today we need to extend that love to all humanity as all are Gods children as He created all humanity.

Whoever I hear Jesus’s Name my heart fills with light.
 
If you are after official answers from Islam, then It is not for me to provide.
I think you are very capable to provide it. Because if the Quran means so much to a person, they should analyse it top to bottom and understand it from the followers who use it as well. Perhaps you can discuss with a Muslim and revert.
I just offer the perspective of One God, His One Faith, and His purpose of One Humanity as Taught by Christ and Muhammad and then recently expounded by Baha’u’llah.
As recent as? :hmmm:
This is in the Koran and the Bible if one puts the Oneness of God in the Heart then only looks for it 😉
Which Bible? The 66 book one or the 73/74 book one or the 81 books one? Please provide the name of the Bible. 🙂
God Bless and Regards Tony
May Grace and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ be with you too.

MJ
 
Yes very much true

They are opposed to each other, but where does HUMAN REASON come into this???

What a massive leap and assumption that it comes from the flesh.
When Thomas Aquinas states “Come, let us reason together” he must’ve been very fleshly thinking then right?

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“It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.” John 6:63

Jesus… “The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life”.

Jesus is talking about spiritual matters, the flesh is Man’s human understanding of things that are in the Supernatural realm, and will be of no help (no avail ) in understanding these things… what is needed is strong Faith.
 
That makes me very happy because I want to be your brother and if I’m getting close then that’s a cause for joy.

Techno you have a pure heart and are sincere. Never let anyone take away your love for Jesus because the more you love Him the more He blesses you.

Whatever people say, NEVER stray from Jesus because people are WRONG. Look at the wars and hatred in the world. If they truly followed Jesus would they be hating on each other?

Jesus said to love thy neighbor but today we need to extend that love to all humanity as all are Gods children as He created all humanity.

Whoever I hear Jesus’s Name my heart fills with light.
That’s sweet, thank you…🙂
 
Yet “Bare in mind for us it is of course the body and blood of Christ”.

then

It is a spiritual experience 😉

Regards Tony
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Without Baptism?
Catechism of the Catholic Church 1694 "Incorporated into Christ by Baptism, Christians are “dead to sin and alive to God in Christ Jesus” and so participate in the life of the Risen Lord.8 Following Christ and united with him,9 Christians can strive to be "imitators of God as beloved children, and walk in love"10 by conforming their thoughts, words and actions to the "mind . . . which is yours in Christ Jesus,"11 and by following his example.12
 
Hi Jimmy,

This is absolute truth. When we cut ourselves off from God’s guidance we can do nothing. But as humans err and do fall into error and do cut themselves off and eventually stary that is why Christ must return to gather His flock back to God, as humanity has strayed far away from God.

The Books were ‘sealed’ until the time othe end so not anyone knows the true meaning of some passages until they are unsealed by Christ’s Coming.
That’s different from the Book of Revelation
 
“It is the spirit that gives life, while the flesh is of no avail. The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life.” John 6:63

Jesus… “The words I have spoken to you are spirit and life”.

Jesus is talking about spiritual matters, the flesh is Man’s human understanding of things that are in the Supernatural realm, and will be of no help (no avail ) in understanding these things… what is needed is strong Faith.
Where in the Bible does it say that human reason is NOT a spiritual matter??

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That’s sweet, thank you…🙂
It was sweet.

He has the love of One God in his heart 🙂

Can we ever envisage a day when Jews would say this to Christians?
Christians say this to Muslims?
Muslims say this to Baha’is?

Ponder a while…

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